Talk:Ariel University
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International cooperation and international students section
editCould somebody please say what in this website says that this center has a a unique qualification: Gold CPLS: Certified Partner for Learning Solutions.? And what in this page supports the sentence that the Center serves as a representative of the Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities cooperation with the Russian Academy of Sciences? And also whether or not there are any secondary sources for any of the material in that section at all? If there are no such sources the section should be deleted as largely unsourced and, for the one or two sentences that are actually supported by the citations given, original research based on primary sources. nableezy - 18:01, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
- Primary sources may be used to make straightforward, descriptive statements such as the ones here, that any educated person with access to the source will be able to verify are supported by the source.--Epeefleche (talk) 19:48, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
- If everything that is not sourced or cited to a page that does not support it is removed, we are left with a two sentences: the first is cited to this page. That sentence being The center is set about by the Microsoft IT Academy and authorized to make certification exams Microsoft Network Administration. The second is cited to this. The sentence cited to that page is In 2011 Ariel University Center signed a cooperation agreement with the Skolkovo innovation center known as "Silicon Valley" in Russia. Following this agreement will be established in the country "center of Israel – Scolkovo" (Israel Skolkovo Gateway), to give Israeli companies to access capital resources and manpower of Scolkovo. If you want to have a two sentence section cited to a primary source be my guest. In the meantime, do you care to answer the question as to whether or not the "sources" above actually back up the material it is being cited for? nableezy - 19:57, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Question about first sentence in this section: the source (reference 10) used to claim that Ariel is part of the IAU is from 2013, and if you now go to that link, it says something totally different from the archived page (It redirects to a bio page) In fact, when I attempt to look at the IAU website now, I do not find Ariel, or any Israeli institution on their list of members. Perhaps this line should be removed, or a new source added, if the claim is correct. Please excuse my anonymous edit, as I haven't yet taken the time to create a wikipedia account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.92.89.111 (talk) 14:14, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
please update "the International cooperation and programs" part
editWith the following information:
In March 2016 York Entrepreneurship Development Institute (YEDI) from Canada partnered with Ariel University to share its methodology with students through an intensive two-week business acceleration program that launched on August 7. [1]
References
- ^ "Sharing Innovation: Renowned Canadian accelerator graduates first cohort at Ariel University". The Times of Israel. Retrieved October 11, 2018.
Please add
editPlease add to notable faculty:
- Ozer Schild (1930-2006), Danish-born Israeli academic, President of the University of Haifa and President of the Ariel College.
--2604:2000:E010:1100:A491:E9F:CD8E:ED89 (talk) 07:20, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
New rector since October
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Ariel University has a new rector since october: prof. Albert Pinhasov. Nomadkml (talk) 23:29, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — IVORK Talk 03:23, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
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Proposal to Modify Language in Article Lead
editHi everyone,
I would like to open a discussion about the use of the term "illegal" in the lead of the Ariel University article. I believe it is important to ensure that the language used in Wikipedia articles is neutral and accurately reflects the complexity of the issue.
While it is true that the international community, including bodies like the United Nations, considers Israeli settlements in the West Bank to be illegal under international law, it is also important to note that this is a contested issue. The Israeli government, along with many legal scholars and supporters, argue that the settlements are not illegal under Israeli law and interpret the international legal framework differently.
Using the term "illegal" in the lead may come across as taking a definitive stance on a highly disputed topic. I propose that we rephrase the lead to reflect both perspectives. For example, we could say:
"Ariel University is located in the city of Ariel, a settlement in the West Bank. The status of Israeli settlements in the West Bank is subject to international dispute, with the international community generally considering them illegal under international law, while the Israeli government disputes this characterization."
This way, we maintain neutrality and provide readers with a broader context. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this matter. דור פוזנר (talk) 17:43, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see why anyone here should care about what Israeli law might have to say about an area that isn't part of Israel. Compare Lysychansk -- it's part of Ukraine (i.e., that's what our article says in the first paragraph), and no-one is going to pay any attention to some shit-eating notion that Russia thinks it's part of Russia. To suggest otherwise is classic WP:FALSEBALANCE. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have mixed feeling about this. According to WP:LEAD the lead should be written in a
neutral point of view
andcover prominent controversies
. It also states that it shouldincludes mention of significant criticism or controversies, and make readers want to learn more.
Using the word illegal is a trigger word and sounds definitive which could be considered not to be neutral. I also would not know there was a controversy from how it is written now. - That said, I don't mind a change being made to highlight the controversy as it could peek the readers interest, but it would need to be done simply. The proposed change seems to wordy and goes into to much detail for the lead in my option. After all, from my understanding, the settlement is largely accepted as illegal, the Israeli government is the driving force saying its not according to Israeli law, but this is not in Israel and therefore wouldn't International law trump Israeli law? Putting too much information about this in the lead would create WP:UNDUE. KittyHawkFlyer (talk) 23:44, 29 November 2024 (UTC)