Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Stamps of Norway

Per Commons:Deletion requests/File:NK934 norwegian stamp vigeland abel.jpg.

• File:NK1387 vigeland sinnataggen norwegian stamp.jpg
• File:Feltpost0020.jpg
• File:NK1050 norwegian stamp Christian IV.jpg
• File:NK1117 norwegian stamp vigeland.jpg
• File:NK1388 norwegian stamp christian iv statue.jpg
• File:NK884 norwegian stamp folk art kristen aanstad.jpg
• File:NK885 norwegian stamp folk art olav hansson.jpg
• File:NK918 werenskiold bjørnson.jpg
• File:NK951 Hansteen norwegian stamp.jpg
• File:NK958 holberg norwegian stamp.jpg
• File:NK972 norwegian stamp vigeland.jpg
• File:NK973 norwegian stamp vigeland.jpg

4ing (talk) 20:12, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

•  Keep Keep File:Feltpost0020.jpg because it is a photo of the postmarks. If the Postage stamps are believed not to be de minimis the file can be cropped.

What about files like File:NK958 holberg norwegian stamp.jpg are they not just using a PD-old work on the stamp (like File:Ludvig Holberg 63 years of age.jpg)? --MGA73 (talk) 06:13, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The artistic engraving is definitely not PD-old. - 4ing (talk) 06:33, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To me the stamp looks like a DW of the work from 1747. --MGA73 (talk) 11:30, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

•  Keep These 10 pictures can not be handled together under one decision, as different raisons apply:
  1: Keep File:Feltpost0020.jpg, as metioned above.
  2: Keep NK1117, as this is merely a non-artistic photography of PD art. The frame and letters added by Posten Norge are not of a nature sufficient to establish copyright, as in Template:PD-textlogo.
  3: Keep NK884, NK885, NK918, NK972, NK973 as these are covered by Template:PD-Art. The frame, letters and additional colour added by Posten Norge are not of a nature sufficient to establish copyright.
  4: For the remaining objects (NK1387, NK1050, NK1388, NK951, NK958) where there are layers of newer artwork added to older art, there are several questions to be solved. The discussion Commons:Deletion requests/File:NK934 norwegian stamp vigeland abel.jpg was not a good one when it comes to clarifying, and is not a good starting point for precedence about whether Template:PD-NorwayGov applies to norwegian stamps. I atill believe that this template applies, but will accept that it might not. If not; should we then delete all norwegian stamps from all ages? Or should we specify between those with artwork and those without? Bw Morten Haugen (talk) 07:53, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Regarding NK1117, non-artistic photographs has 50 years protection from the year of the photograher's death. 4ing (talk) 08:17, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Allow me: Template:PD-Norway50 says «50 years after creation, provided that more than 15 years have passed since the photographer's death or the photographer is unknown.», but I accept that this doesn't help neither. Bw Morten Haugen (talk) 09:03, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• But then again. We have solid precedence that faithful reproductions of art does not establish copyright. E.g.: Nasjonalmuseet's photographers Høstland/Jarre are not credited for photographing this work of art. Bw Morten Haugen (talk) 09:15, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Yes, you're right regarding the 50 years' rule. In addition comes the URAA clause that it was in the public domain on the 1st of January 1996. - 4ing (talk) 09:18, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding URAA: Per Commons:Massive_restoration_of_deleted_images_by_the_URAA we do not delete photos if only reason to delete is URAA. --MGA73 (talk) 11:32, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Regarding the faithful reproductions of art, this is limited to "public domain, two-dimensional work of art". This art is not two-dimensional, and the photograph alo shows more than the work of art. - 4ing (talk) 09:24, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: kept those that were basically derivatives of PD graphics and paintings with some added letters and numbers, cropped the Feltpost file to show just the postmarks, and deleted the rest. Even if those also showed PD works (by Gustav Vigeland and others), they used apparently recent photos of 3D works, so PD-Art does not apply. As in the previous DR: Neither Commons:Stamps nor Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Norway says anything about Norwegian stamps. I don't see these stamps as documents per {{PD-NorwayGov}}, and if they were created for a document, artwork is still not covered by the PD exemption. No evidence to the contrary, like a court decision saying otherwise, was presented. --Rosenzweig τ 00:05, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]