Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Hassan II Mosque

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There is no freedom of panorama in Morocco.

--. HombreDHojalata.^talk 10:19, 21 July 2013 (UTC)][reply]

Delete As per nom. russavia (talk) 12:56, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep What can I say, law is law!! But when a building financed by Moroccan government to be used by Muslim public is copyrighted, I see the sense is no more!!!!--Maher27777 (talk) 14:01, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nom. INeverCry 01:00, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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There is no freedom of panorama in Morocco, therefore these photos can't be hosted on Commons until such time as there is a change in Moroccan law.

russavia (talk) 15:21, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hm... According to a discussion on Commons_talk:Licensing#Free_in_the_U.S._and_the_country_of_origin_of_the_work (this edit) the important is "the country of first publication" and not (just) the country where the building is located. And what if the photos were taken by someone from the U.S. where there is FOP? Perhaps it is time we take a discussion about our licensing policy. --MGA73 (talk) 15:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the photographer of at least one of these photos. In case it makes any difference to the conclusion, I'd like to point out that my photos were taken while on a relatively pricey guided tour of the mosque, where the participants were allowed to take photos of anything we were shown. I asked my guide, an employee at the visitor's bureau of the mosque, about any limitations on the use of photos taken during the tour. I was told there were none. Uspn (talk) 21:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Would Moroccan law allow these images to be kept on wikipedia? Chesdovi (talk) 10:37, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: I would not expect a museum docent anywhere to understand the subtleties of copyright law. Our FOP policies are well established -- we follow the law of the country where the workis located. I would welcome a change to that (for architecture, at least) to using the USA rules only, but that discussion needs to take place in a much broader context. . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 14:16, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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These images show the interior or exterior of a building by fr:Michel Pinseau. In most countries, all paintings, sculpture, architecture, text, and other creative works have copyrights which last for 70 years after the death of the creator. An image of a work that is still under copyright is a derivative work, and infringes on the copyright so that we cannot usually keep the image on Commons. In some countries, there is a special exception to the copyright law which allows such images under certain circumstances. We call that exception freedom of panorama (FOP). Unfortunately there is no applicable FOP exception in Morocco.

Stefan4 (talk) 15:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There was such indication in the flickr images. If the Moroccan law does not permit, let the imgs be deleted. I have no issues.--Nvvchar (talk) 06:03, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: INeverCry 00:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco

russavia (talk) 09:41, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It's too bad, the mosque is beautiful and these are very good images, but the Moroccan law clearly does not provide for images which infringe on the architect's copyright. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:45, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: INeverCry 00:16, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No COM:FOP in Morocco

russavia (talk) 07:03, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: INeverCry 23:12, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No freedom of panorama in Morocco.

Stefan4 (talk) 21:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As per nom. russavia (talk) 04:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom. It's unfortunate that there is no FOP in Morocco. Tucoxn (talk) 21:50, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: INeverCry 00:16, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No freedom of panorama in Morocco.

Stefan4 (talk) 12:21, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The building in file

File:Hassan Tower and Pillars of Mosque Destroyed by Quake - Rabat - Morocco.jpg

is clearly out of copyright (12th century) --Dschwen (talk) 22:24, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted by Dschwen -FASTILY 08:44, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco

russavia (talk) 14:35, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted 14:50, 21 September 2013 by Russavia, closed by . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:03, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No freedom of panorama in Morocco.

Stefan4 (talk) 21:47, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. russavia (talk) 06:55, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Agreed. Although we have a general agreement that we will not use {{Speedy}} where FOP might apply, does there come a point at which we should simply delete these? . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 17:16, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, Taivo (talk) 14:32, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco, neither for the interior nor for the exterior.

Stefan4 (talk) 19:36, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No FOP in Morocco.

File:Casablanca Collage.jpg

Stefan4 (talk) 19:39, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the collage because it includes the photo File:Casablanca Twin Center.jpg, which has the looks of a copyvio. See for example a larger version present on the internet there, with a notice of copyright, in (2004), before the upload to en.wikipedia (2007). -- Asclepias (talk) 05:45, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This building is even designed by a French, it's been built by Moroccan government, and financed by Moroccan people (see article), to be used by public. It's a public domain building by definition, and if any thing to be deleted..it is this page itself!!!!!--Maher27777 (talk) 11:01, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Unfortunately, Maher27777's line of reasoning is contrary to the law in Morocco and all other limited FOP countries. Even in the USA, a photograph of a sculpture or painting paid for with Federal funds cannot be photographed for Commons if the work was not done by a Federal employee. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: INeverCry 00:59, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Derivative work of a copyrighted architectural work by fr:Michel Pinseau.

Stefan4 (talk) 14:42, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted -FASTILY 07:38, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Unfree architectural work.

Stefan4 (talk) 21:31, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, How can you ask for deletion of a picture (File:Casablanca Mosquee Hassan 2.jpg) with the reason of "Unfree Architectural work" of a public monument ? It s tottaly a non sense. It s in a public place for everybody or in other case, forbid globally all public places pictures of everything because everything have been created by somebody.— Preceding unsigned comment added by RogerCageot (talk • contribs) 2015-01-30T07:48:34 (UTC)

The architect hasn't been dead for 50 years yet. You can't upload pictures of architecture in Morocco unless the architect has been dead for at least 50 years. The building's copyright protection covers both the interior and the exterior of the building. See COM:FOP#Morocco. --Stefan4 (talk) 07:51, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User:RogerCageot, do not remove comments written by other people! --~~

RogerCageot (talk)

Keep "« L'importation sur la Wikipédia francophone de photographies libres de bâtiments récents est tolérée. Cependant, l'importation est interdite dans les cas où les ayants droit ont explicitement exprimé leur opposition. »"

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Prise_de_d%C3%A9cision/Remise_en_cause_de_l%27exception_au_droit_d%27auteur_sur_les_b%C3%A2timents_r%C3%A9cents

Exception au doit d'auteur.

Avez vous reçu explicitement une opposition de la part de l'architecte détenteur des droits ? Si non vous n'avez pas le droit a demander la suppression de cette image. 10:07, 30 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RogerCageot (talk • contribs)

- Commons n'est pas la Wikipédia francophone. --Stefan4 (talk) 20:48, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As anyone can see from all of the deletions above, it is very well established that images of the mosque cannot be kept on Commons because they infringe on the architect's copyright. All of the arguments made here have been made before and it is well accepted that they are not valid. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:24, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, Per nom. Green Giant (talk) 21:03, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: per nomination. --Krd 07:22, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Interior and exterior images of a work by w:Michel Pinseau, without evidence of permission from Michel Pinseau's heirs.

Stefan2 (talk) 23:34, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Natuur12 (talk) 07:30, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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There is no Freedom of panorama in Morocco (sadly :(), please see COM:FOP#Morocco or Commons:Deletion requests/File:Hassan II Mosque, Casablanca, Morocco (5422904059).jpg

PierreSelim (talk) 06:06, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted per nomination - Jcb (talk) 00:19, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Per previous requests above

ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 09:14, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Daphne Lantier 01:17, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

大诺史 (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 09:10, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom sadly - It's a great loss to Commons however we (unfortunately) must follow respective countries FOP rules. –Davey2010^Talk 14:21, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding "Mezquita Hassan II (reflejo en agua difuso)" "Mezquita Hassan II (reflejo en agua)": I call to your attention that the main focus/subject of the two photos I uploaded with the word "reflejo" (reflection) in their subtitles is not the mosque but the body of water (the ocean). I am aware that there is not FOP in Morocco hence the decision over the shots. Regarding the file "Niño dibujando mezquita Hassan II" (Kid drawing the Mosque Hassan II"): The FOP is not even an issue here. On the other hand, if anyone starts to argue a trouble with copyright, it must be said that, first of all, we're talking about a class exercise (that I taught) and not a work ment to be considered art; we can't even consider it a sketch of a work-to-be since, as I just wrote, it was a drawing made by a kid during a class about "things I love from Casablanca", no more than that. Conclusion: As I wrote earlier, I'm aware of the lack of FOP in this country, and even if I don't agree with it, I respect it. But sometimes we take part in these efforts made by governments to control every single aspect of its people. If we start to erase pictures of drawings and reflections of buildings, where do we draw the line? Fraguando (talk) 21:56, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Deleted most per nomination, with heavy heart. Kept a few where the mosque was not the main subject of the image. Unfortunately the children's drawing must be considered a derivative work. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 19:42, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

大诺史 (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 07:55, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

More stunning and beautiful images .... all going to be binned due to silly laws, As much as I don't want to we must respect FOP loaws even if it is ridiculous. –Davey2010^Talk 22:02, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Deleted per nomination.--Wdwd (talk) 14:36, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

大诺史 (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 05:58, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Deleted per nomination.--Wdwd (talk) 14:36, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

大诺史 (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 17:56, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Deleted per nomination.--Wdwd (talk) 14:36, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

Minorax (talk) 12:55, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: No FOP in Morocco --PierreSelim (talk) 13:30, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

Minorax^talk _{(formerly 大诺史)} 07:52, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nom. Tomer T (talk) 09:40, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

Minorax^talk _{(formerly 大诺史)} 11:15, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. Sealle (talk) 13:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

Minorax^talk _{(formerly 大诺史)} 15:05, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. Sealle (talk) 13:09, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

Minorax^talk _{(formerly 大诺史)} 12:00, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. — Tulsi Bhagat ^{[ contribs | talk ]} 16:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

Minorax^talk _{(formerly 大诺史)} 02:54, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. — Tulsi Bhagat ^{[ contribs | talk ]} 17:00, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

Minorax^talk _{(formerly 大诺史)} 16:31, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. — Tulsi Bhagat ^{[ contribs | talk ]} 16:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

Minorax^talk _{(formerly 大诺史)} 15:24, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. — Tulsi Bhagat ^{[ contribs | talk ]} 17:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

Minorax^talk _{(formerly 大诺史)} 06:30, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. — Tulsi Bhagat ^{[ contribs | talk ]} 16:57, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

Minorax^talk _{(formerly 大诺史)} 15:51, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nom. - FitIndia ^{Talk ✉} 11:20, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

Minorax^talk 11:23, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: by 4nn1l2. Minorax^talk 06:30, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco. Guideline states that "for a work permanently located in a public place if it is not the main subject of the image, however, the Mosque (including its interior) seems to be the main subject.

Minorax^talk 14:11, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Missvain (talk) 16:14, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted by Missvain. --Minorax^talk 04:06, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominating all files where the mosque's architecture is the main subject. Per previous deletion requests: no COM:FOP Morocco, so copyrighted until 2070 (architect Michel Pinseau died in 1999).

HyperGaruda (talk) 16:06, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. - FitIndia ^{Talk ✉} 16:23, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Recent work of architecture by Michel Pinseau, not allowed in Commons because no FOP in Morocco.

Darwin ^Ahoy! 19:56, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. Three photos showing mosaics and two showing interior architecture. Commercial freedom of panorama is not allowed in Morocco. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 03:19, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep File:زائرة تتأمل في زخرفة مسجد الحسن الثاني.jpg Per COM:FOP Morocco:"It shall be permitted, without the author’s authorization or payment of a fee, to republish, broadcast or communicate to the public by cable an image of a work of architecture, a work of fine art, a photographic work, or a work of applied art which is permanently located in a place open to the public, unless the image of the work is the main subject of such a reproduction, broadcast or communication and if it is used for commercial purposes." The main subject of File:زائرة تتأمل في زخرفة مسجد الحسن الثاني.jpg is the person. Also, Michel Pinseau is not the author of the mosaics. إيان (talk) 05:08, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@إيان: Commons does not host files that are not resuable for commercial end-users. Per COM:Licensing#Forbidden licenses, non-commercial licenses are not allowed. Moroccan FOP is simply unacceptable. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 12:48, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What about File:زائرة تتأمل في زخرفة مسجد الحسن الثاني.jpg? If its main subject is the person, then the image can be used also for commercial purposes, if I understand the quote correctly (I cannot see the image as the file was deleted a few days ago). –LPfi (talk) 16:48, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 04:44, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco

--Minorax^«¦talk¦» 13:25, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore File:MOSQUEE HASSAN II.jpg is previously published and would need a separate VRT permission from the photographer even if we obtained a general permission for the mosque. ~Cybularny ^Speak? 13:41, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: by Krd. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 12:59, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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No FOP in Morocco

--Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 10:56, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: by Jameslwoodward. --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 06:23, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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