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I need help of how to add a template that you made, "User uploads by year".
I already created categories of cars that were registered by decade and then years. (Only for 1990s, 2000s and 2010s) but I don't know how to add the template and make it work properly. --Vauxford (talk) 20:05, 21 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
Hi @Vauxford: . It's pretty much the same thing you did, I am not sure what part of it is giving you problems. Mine are sorted with a sortkey at the end of the categorization, but it was all done manually. Very time consuming to do on one's existing uploads but now that I do it to all my uploads it's quite simple. Show me a link to your attempt and I'll help you out if I can. Best, mr.choppers (talk)-en-19:20, 25 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Vauxford: - figured out the problem, not sure how to solve it (elegantly, at least). I made it so that the subcats' name is the same as the main category, with just the year added. Your ndash makes it not work with the template as written. I changed your page so that now it lists all of the other pages, but now there is a redlink there instead. I hope you can see what I mean. mr.choppers (talk)-en-01:20, 27 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
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Just an update to the comment section, for the picture of the RC Cola Porsche 962. 1 correction needed....it was raced by Dyson Racing, not Andial. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 108.36.104.207 (talk) 02:13, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
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I'm wondering where about do you put your AP (the little box thing on your camera screen). It just a shame seeing your photos all in the best situation to be ruined by the subject not being focused properly, e.g. the car is focused on one half but not the other. Are you using the tracking focus or the live 1-point AF? When I first got my DSLR I had this problem when one half of the car is focused not the other, turns out I was using the tracking focus which after covers one half of the screen. I solved this by switching to 1-point AF and moving the AP to the middle of the car, that way it will balance the focus overall. --Vauxford (talk) 10:20, 20 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Vauxford: Hm, I tried that once before and it would never focus at all. It may have been with my previous camera, cannot remember for sure. I am going to give it another shot. Thanks. mr.choppers (talk)-en-00:59, 21 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
Oh man, just spent a half hour fiddling with my camera and realized that the diopter was on a crazy setting - meaning I was never really able to tell whether the focus was right. No wonder I never had any luck with the manual focus either - I thought I was just retarded, which I guess I was, but in another manner. mr.choppers (talk)-en-02:26, 21 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
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I see that you are not a gentleman and refuse to delete your pics of my car as I asked you to. I do remember you and can't wait to see you again.
120ZACK120 If you get this worked up over people photographing your car, which in the photos, appears to be at some meet up where possibly hundreds of people have their cameras and phones out taking pictures, why did you bring your car there in the first place? --Vauxford (talk) 13:52, 11 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
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I'm not sure what you are referring to (the '68 LTD? The original receipt was on display), but the only Ford products I would consider owning are an RS200 or a Mark I Escort wagon. Best, mr.choppers (talk)-en-14:09, 20 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
Nah, I was just sorting a bunch of photos of Fords from the period and realized that this one is a MY1969. The Custom 500 has an additional "500" script that is missing from the one you photographed. I would love to see this car lovingly restored (ie not too shiny). mr.choppers (talk)-en-15:07, 20 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Eddaido: Actually, it gets worse - non-supercharged Sharknoses were Model 96 (in 1938/39). I can find little to no information about Graham's 1940 lineup, everyone only wants to talk Hollywood. mr.choppers (talk)-en-04:30, 1 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
Are you making allowance for the manufacture of the next model year beginning the previous August? Have you considered when Graham ended manufacture? (I don't remember but its about then) My only concern is that they should have been taken from appearing individually in the model year system which I think's now fixed. Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 01:01, 7 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
(Moved from my talk page) Eddaido, an Oldsmobile F-36 is a 1936 Oldsmobile F-series. They are all model year 1936. For US cars, this is what matters, as that is when changes in design take place. Whether the car was built in December 1935 or January 1936 doesn't matter when it comes to model years. mr.choppers (talk)-en-18:00, 7 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I know we are both aware of that. "My only" real "concern is that they should have been taken from appearing individually in the model year system which I think's now fixed" (see above). Cheers and regards, Eddaido (talk) 20:43, 7 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
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@Eddaido: Looks like a Chevrolet, I am at work so I can't really do too much research right now... I say upload them all, whether we can figure them out or not. Many are even labelled already. That two-nosed Tempo is really interesting, can't wait to find out more about it. mr.choppers (talk)-en-14:14, 21 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
I can't see why. What use would it be? Once we gather like with like (there weren't really myriads) we can see the likenesses — which is why I hate those burrows (solitary sub-categories) some are so fond of. I hate them because one cannot see them (without a lot of difficulty and a good visual memory) to identify the images by looking at what we have on file now. All the Rootes vehicles together by year? Why? Eddaido (talk) 02:08, 22 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
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Hello Mr.choppers, just wondering, is there any difference between the Volvo 21134 A-F, M-P model codes cosmically? I have this photo of one from the NEC Classic Car Show, the example is 1965 and was imported August this year. Usually if the DVLA didn't get given the exact date for when it was registration in it original country would simply put 31st December XXXX. This makes me unsure whether this car was either a Volvo 21134 E (August '64 to August '65) or a F (August '65 to August '66) (Date range information I got from the German Wikipedia article of the PV445).
In a nutshell I can't tell if this car was registered before or after August 1965 so I thought there must be some minor difference between them, thanks. --Vauxford (talk) 21:40, 22 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Vauxford: The Duett, being a workhorse, saw very few annual changes. The last six model years had the B18 engine and 12V electrics, although I think that 1966 Duetts have the B18 badge on the left hand of the grille and 1965s have it on the right side of the grille, with a Volvo logo on the left side. If I could see the picture it would help. Volvo kept track of the model years, but it didn't always signify any modifications. See page 9 here for the colors through the years - if it is dark blue then it's definitely an F. mr.choppers (talk)-en-01:32, 23 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
Hi @Vauxford: , that looks to be an F, which would make it a 1966 model year vehicle. Volvo have traditionally carried out their annual changes in August/September. Is it okay if I change the title accordingly? Best, mr.choppers (talk)-en-02:48, 23 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
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Hello Mr.choppers Thank you for your indication : "I think you should probably stop using cat-a-lot; a lot of miscategorizations and assumptions" (link) and your cancellations, some of which, as you say "doubtful" (link). It shows that I am a human and not a robot, if we consider that the error is human. But, you are right, I will raise my level of attention so that it is as fair as possible categorizations to reduce the threshold of uncertainty.
Regarding the use of cat-a-lot, I take care, beforehand, to open the corresponding page before putting it in the list of the gadget, in 80% of cases. But, I recognize that I can make mistakes.
Regarding the indication : "assumption". Without the presence of a label dedicated to the year of manufacture, if the vehicle is present in an international showroom for the current year, effectively, I consider that the model photographed in the same year corresponds to the year of manufacture, for example. More delicate with army vehicles, I focus on the years of photography so that the user has knowledge, in the ranking by years, the existence of military vehicles manufactured by the brand and so to continue our educational vocation and information sharing. For bicycles, mopeds and scooters, I take care to read the corresponding Wikipedia articles so that the dates correspond to the existence of the product.
Regarding the indication : "lot of miscategorizations". Thousand excuses, I can have moments of weakness. I will make sure that I am as accurate as possible. I seem to be quite attentive to the quality of the contributions in which I participate and to be thanked regularly, in addition to the courses that I teach daily to learn how to contribute on Wikipedia.
Regarding the classification by years and by brands that I have been carrying out for a few months, my motivation is driven by the desire to understand this industrial evolution over time and thus complement us in our tasks between the existence of models and their evolutions. Then, it will be possible for us with the creation of the corresponding pages to also complete the existing Wikipedia by indicating the distinctions that characterize each model with their particularities and put the story in its correct chronology. Having classified old books for twenty years, I moved stacks of books of uncertainty mentioned as "errors" to finally find a place that became "logical". It is also and "a little" what we do here, we have "uncertainties" and we try to make "logical".
Reflections of improvements. For lack of label mentioning the year of construction or that this is validated by a date, when importing new files for example. To improve categorization, it could be envisaged to create a categorization of the type : 2005 Peugeot automobiles photographed this year (for example) and thus to distinguish manufactured vehicles from photographed vehicles.
My wish, as much as my goal, is to be able to complement us in our contributions to provide users with knowledge of developments in the automotive industry with all the educational diversity understandable by a large audience. I again apologize to you, if sometimes I make mistakes in the quantity of contributions I make. I still consider myself in the learning phase where many subjects are to be discovered in the vast Wikimedia project. Cordially, —— DePlusJean (talk) 12:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thank you again for reporting my errors I started to fix them and I will check my contribution history to correct my youth error. The contributor Navigator84 also canceled some of my contributions to confirm my errors. I allow myself to use your page to thank him. The logic is well preserved, we all learn from our mistakes. Another sincere thank you for your indications and correcting me in my errors of contributions. Cordially, —— DePlusJean (talk) 14:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
For cars registered in the UK it is usually possible to find out (1) the year of manufacture and (2) the year of first registration in the UKhere. Though GiGo applies: if the person registering the car gave the English bureaucrats wrong data, especially with older cars, that's the data that gets shared on the government website.
For Dutch license plates, look here - though other links are mentioned on Vehicle registration plates of the Netherlands. Mr C may be more up to date on the relevant links than I am. I think they may have changed recently.
For French cars, till about ten years ago the sequential numbers at the start of the license plate ran chronologically under most circumstances, but was administered on a departmental level. So if you are familiar with the department in question you can probably check approximately which number relates to which year of first registration simply by finding someone helpful to check records at the prefecture. Mais comme tu as l'air d'etre de la francophonie, j'estime que tu devriais beaucoup mieuz que moi maitriser telles choses. These days France and Italy simply use a national chronological sequence, though I'm not sure if they insist on changing the number if you move house. this table looks potentially useful for newer cars.
Changing plates when you change your residence used to be the problem with dating cars registered in Germany and Switzerland. Don't know if it still is. For Belgium there's a single national sequence, but as far as I remember it follows the owner rather than the car, which is less helpful than you might hope for in this context.
Sadly I've no idea how it works with cars registered in Sweden, but no doubt there's a wikipedia entry on Swedish license plates somewhere.
I appreciate you may both know all this stuff already. But if you didn't, and if it helps, then good. Wikipedia can never be perfect, but of course that is no reason why we should not try to make it better! Success Charles01 (talk) 16:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Hi all. I think it best not to assign a model year to a vehicle unless it can be stated with some certainty. Being in a show room is a pretty good indication (except that model years usually shift in August or September and often leftover cars are sold new long afterwards). Like Charles says, many jurisdictions allow you to look a vehicle up using the plate number. But definitely go slower, better to have no model year category than the wrong one. mr.choppers (talk)-en-01:14, 22 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your information mr.choppers and Charles01 Completely agree with your statements mr.choppers. The presentation of vehicles in international fairs allows an indication of current models to the nearest year according to the manufacturer's instructions, except, obviously for the part of the presentations of vintage cars. My misunderstanding of association between the date of manufacture and the date of photography is specific to the Peugeot brand. Each brand with its particularities, I thought for a moment that the project was sufficiently successful for this brand and that the seriousness of the depositors led to believe that the date mentioned was the date of manufacture, which is a regrettable error on my part which I will correct. A big sincere thank you for your additional information Charles01. Your indications gave me ideas so that we centralize our resources in the Commons:WikiProject Automobiles to help other participating contributors and the community. I also searched and tested to recognize license plates in France (link) and Italy (link). Personally, I have a few hundred photographs of automobiles produced in France pending and these links will allow the description to be completed in order to provide complete information. Thanks again to both of you ! I correct my errors and I will ensure that my future assignments comply with the contents of the descriptions. —— DePlusJean (talk) 11:36, 22 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
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I think the Mercedes logo is below the threshold of originality. The Abarth logo is a bit more complex which makes it above the threshold of originality. But I agree that there are a lot of photos of car logos that actually should be deleted from Commons.Jonteemil (talk) 01:12, 22 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
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Can you please use my talk page and remove the deletion requests such as this one https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Marie-Claude_St-Laurent_au_Espace_Go.png while keeping the images instead of taking them down? Since last December, Myloufa began adding deletion requests to photos like crazy and most of them were retained (some were taken down). Just write "Kept per Deletion requests." THis also applies to the two-year-old Évelyne Gauthier pic from November 2017. -- Bull-Doser (talk) 16:24, 22 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Wyoming 88!: Do you speak English? If you write in your own language perhaps I could understand what you are trying to ask me. If this is about using a photo I uploaded, all Wikipedia images allow for commercial reuse, so go ahead. You just have to credit me (Mr.choppers at Wikimedia Commons). Best, mr.choppers (talk)-en-16:22, 3 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Boivie: Coolt! Då korrigerar jag. Tack för att jag fick veta hur i h-e en Stellar kom till Sverige; det är ju typ en av de minst intressanta bilar som någonsin byggts. Jag älskar när folk gör sig trubbel för att ta in dylika alldagliga vagnar. Min konfirmationspräst hade varit stationerad i Yokohama och tog med sig en 1986 Mitsubishi Mirage 1.3 CG (en Colt, alltså). Han ville inte kosta på sig en kort skylt där bak, så han bara böjde en standardskylt. Inga bilder, tyvärr. Mvh mr.choppers (talk)-en-22:22, 3 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Tack för korrigeringen. Min Stellar ägdes först av ett svenskt par som jobbade i Kuwait. Efter ett par år tog de hem bilen till Sverige och förutom 1990, när de var gisslan hos Saddam, så använde de bilen varje sommar när de var hemma på semester. Själv var jag sjukligt intresserad av Hyundai, och gillar bakhjulsdrivna bilar, så jag letade reda på bilens ägare med hjälp av fordonsregistret och kontaktade ägarna samma sommar som de hade planerat att sälja bilen. Nu har bilen dock varit avställd i många år, och börjar bli mer och mer förfallen. Och på tal om böjda skyltar (och ganska alldagliga import-bilar), på den här bilen fick jag också böja den röda tillfälliga import-skylten. Den gula Luxemburg-skylten på bilden har för övrigt ingen koppling till den bilen; jag importerade den direkt från Japan till Sverige. boivie (talk) 07:59, 4 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Boivie: Wow, cool samling! En Mark II Blit räknar iallafall inte jag som alldaglig! De enda bakhjulsdrivna jag ägt är en '93 240 Classic och en '87 Peugeot 505 Turbo S. Bor i NYC så det är lite struligt att ha bil övh här. mr.choppers (talk)-en-02:11, 5 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
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Do you know who I'm? Do you remember me? Do you know? I'm that Zeroteam385 guy, that you banned so MANY times. Do you think I'm some kind of retarded freak huh? I have a girlfriend and 2 kids, so I'm not what you think! Also if you ban me one more time I will put a sockpuppet category at your account, also that Checkuser thing is illegal. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2A02:587:DC07:AC00:99E3:8A66:15F3:1CCE (talk) 16:21, 1 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
You would have to tell them yourself. For that to work you'd have to make it believable that you a) understand what you were doing wrong and b) that it won't keep happening. Yelling over here isn't gonna accomplish much. Best, mr.choppers (talk)-en-20:58, 1 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
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Hi, sorry, I don't remember the reason why I removed the picture... maybe I had made a mistake, it's certainly a S2.... sorry again!!! --Luc106 (talk) 18:46, 10 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@BlueCrabRedCrab: Thanks! Tips? Don't be shy, don't be afraid of having to explain yourself to owners who cannot understand why you're photographing a nineties' Saturn. A polarizing filter has been very helpful to me. I am a bit of a lunatic and usually bring a tripod so that I can take several photos, which allows me to remove most of the glare and reflections. mr.choppers (talk)-en-18:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
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Rummaging around the automobile articles and I must say, I really like that M5 you took. Massive improvement from what I previously seen and it seem you cured the one half focused/one half blurred problem. I recommend trying to nominate that as QI if I was you. --Vauxford (talk) 15:17, 2 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@BlueCrabRedCrab: - I usually just carry a camera with me in my car. Sometimes I will go to a garage and see if there is anything of interest, then I will just stroll around there. Most interesting cars seem to hang out at the wrong side of the tracks or where the super rich congregate. Best, mr.choppers (talk)-en-13:10, 13 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
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I didn't do the vandalism in the GAZon and GAZelle pages. The IPs are different and I have mostly stopped being interested in Wikipedia, so please do not say the "usual IP vandal" since I didn't commit, I would like you to answer me if you can. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2A02:587:DC79:2F00:5160:26FA:22F4:7C75 (talk) 17:31, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
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I have a family and two kids and I can send you pictures to prove that so I'm not a loser as you may think, I just edited Wikipedia, Okay I know that I did write fake things in some articles, but that doesn't mean that I'm a loser. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2A02:587:DC79:2F00:558F:3E55:C9F:C60D (talk) 04:15, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
Vandalism is for losers, but I am not even sure I called you that. That came from inside yourself. Anyhow, go hug your kids! Or don't hug them if they'd rather not (mine is in a no-hug stage), but make them a sandwich or something. Take care, mr.choppers (talk)-en-17:22, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
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Hey
I am a Newsweek journalist preparing the article In Photos, Most Popular Cars of the Last 50 Years.
I am looking to use your picture of a:
1975 Cutlass 4-door sedan
Would this be possible? If so, could you email me at t.fish@newsweek.com
(By the way, I am also looking for the following models - between following age bracket. Can you help?
1978 - 1981: Oldsmobile Cutlass
1983: Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
1984 - 1985: Chevrolet Cavalier
1986: Chevrolet Celebrity
1987 - 1988: Ford Escort
I use Sony A7M3 and photography is my hobby and way of surviving through this world :)
This particular photo was made with no commercial benefit for me thus I uploaded it here and granted unlimited rights for its use. BTW, there was no lighting used for this shot, only natural ambient light coming through the trees, that's why it's pretty dark. The real car colour appears to be brighter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SsrKelso (talk • contribs) 03:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
For the Nissan X-Trail photo that was deleted, you claimed that a Nissan publicity shot you uploaded was freely licensed. In general, when you upload photos it benefits you to retain the EXIF information, and with no other history aside from other deleted uploads I am going to go ahead and not believe you. mr.choppers (talk)-en-12:37, 13 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Sure, will do this in my further uploads. Didn't know that fact about EXIFs requirement in Wikipedia resources. As for X-Trail, that was not my photo, yet from open resource, that's why I mentioned about its copyrights.
Could you please follow me on what shoud I add to my currently uploaded Terrano shot? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SsrKelso (talk • contribs) 09:53, 14 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
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hi i saw you have pictures of my geo storm wagonback at radwood greenwich but the description has me confused and i was wondering if i could talk to you about it. also my phone number is blanked. 24.164.186.8301:29, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hi, I am sorry, I described based on my memory of the conversation and (I think) the VIN. Feel free to message me here, this is public so I advise you not to post any of your personal information. mr.choppers (talk)-en-01:37, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Ah... I know what you mean. My wife feels even stronger about this; anything beyond adjusting levels is a form of lying in her eyes. I also photoshop out neighboring cars, litter on the ground, and remove rust spots or restore hubcaps - all in order to focus strictly on the car. To me, a blank or blurred license plate is more distracting than an altered one, but it takes too long so I only do it rarely. mr.choppers (talk)-en-11:27, 9 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
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@DanTD: I believe that if I had, I would have uploaded them. Let me check over the weekend; photos that old are in my hard drive which I can't get to at the moment. And nudge me if I forget! mr.choppers (talk)-en-02:00, 15 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
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I don't know why I still get the bad author's notice when I try to flickrreview an image but the shanksar account has been removed from the bad flickr account list as you said. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:25, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Wait, there is something weird going on here - I photographedthought I knew the VIN and it comes back reading 2024 CX-90, but it's obviously a CX-9 and they were discontinued after 2023. I am going to have to have a look see at the photos to figure out what I did exactly. mr.choppers (talk)-en-12:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
I figured since the title is oddly specific I thought maybe you mixed it up with an actual CX-90 image, particularly because the CX-9 does not come with mild hybrid. Andra Febrian (talk) 14:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Figured it out - the owner upgraded to a 2024 CX-90 between when I took the photo and when I ran the plate to get the VIN; so now the plate comes back to the newer car. It's pretty rare for people to hold on to their license plate combination (it's a $20 fee), but it happens. mr.choppers (talk)-en-00:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
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