Talk:Roland Berger (company)

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I removed most content for copyright violations; refer to [1] and [2] (page 19 of pdf). Cmprince 22:50, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

nice broken links mr. content remover keep up the good work —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.168.80.237 (talk • contribs) 13:30, 14 January 2007

I can't help if the files have been removed from their servers in the intervening 10 months. Cmprince 21:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like advertisement. Recommend deleting this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.43.205 (talk) 13:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Sir or Madam,

The following text is the updated information about Roland Berger Strategy Consultants which was prepared by the Corporate Communications department of Roland Berger Strategy Consultants based on current facts. Could you please be so kind and consider these changes? Thank you very much in advance.

Kind regards, Franziska Poszler

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.155.89.142 (talk) 12:20, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for suggesting those changes on the talkpage as COI-editor. I have updated the board changes for now - these are relatively uncontroversial changes, and self-published sources are usually accepted for such kind of common information. A few quick additional points:

• If you are Franziska Poszler (talk · contribs), it would be better to continue to post under the named account. Posting under multiple accounts and IPs is generally frowned upon (and could get you blocked in worst-case, if such accounts misrepresent separate users).
• A Wikipedia article is not supposed to present the company (any company) from their own point of view - see WP:NPOV and WP:PROMO. Independent sources are generally preferred to self-published sources (except for trivial, uncontroversial information). A complete "authorized" self-description is generally not suitable for an encyclopedic article.
• Please see WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:INDISCRIMINATE, a complete list of offices or a (subjective) list of "competitors" is unsuitable for inclusion.

As a volunteer editor I don't have the time to check all your suggested changes to overhaul the complete article unfortunately (maybe someone else can take a look). It would be better to focus on a few small substantial changes of important details. Smaller edit requests are easier to handle (and more likely to succeed). If factual details in the article (number of employees, website-URL and similar details) are wrong, please feel free to post again to request such fixes. I hope, the implemented changes have already helped a bit to improve the article. GermanJoe (talk) 14:08, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear GermanJoe (talk · contribs), thank you very much for your feedback and help. These are a few proposed changes: Roland Berger Strategy Consultants has 50 offices worldwide (not 51). The company is an independent partnership wholly owned by its approx. 220 partners (not 250)[NEW Source: http://rolandberger.com/company/] In February 2015 8 new partners[ NEW Source: http://rolandberger.com/press_releases/Roland_Berger_welcomes_eight_new_Partners.html] and in June 2015 another 7 new partners were appointed. In June 2015 Roland Berger acquired the entire team from German consulting firm FMC Consultants GmbH.(Source: http://www.consultant-news.com/article_display.aspx?p=adp&id=13311). (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Franziska Poszler (talk • contribs)

I changed some of the requested details, namely the number of offices (and the number of employees per website), and the June 2015 acquisition. Some more comments:

• Mentioning every single increase in the number of partners is too detailed for a relatively common occurence. I left out those numbers and only included the actual current total number. The article is only supposed to be an encyclopedic overview, focussing on the most notable facts.
• Added a few "citation needed" tags for crucial information, which are yet unsourced. Independent sources should be used whereever possible for non-trivial information.
• Trimmed some details about the company's internal strategy. Unless that information can be sourced by an independent reliable reference, it is too promotional and self-serving.
• Especially the section about the company's "Roland Berger Foundation" could use another independent source. If this initiative had a notable impact, it should be possible to provide a neutral article as reference, describing some of its activities. If the "Foundation" has no notable coverage in independent news and other media, detailed coverage would be undue WP:WEIGHT. GermanJoe (talk) 16:02, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We don't list every board member in wikipedia. They can be foun d at company's website. We do list top executives, both present and past. Please include information about time period in office( e.g., 2001-2009, 2014-present). Staszek Lem (talk) 16:36, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very muchGermanJoe (talk · contribs). I recognized a few small other suggestions. In the "History" section: centered instead of centred; focused instead of focussed and practice instead of practise. Also, Roland Berger has 4 not 5 offices in North America; there is no office in New York City anymore. Thanks for any help and kind regards, (talk)

• The spellings are probably just a common American <-> British English difference, and should be checked by a native English speaker - aka. not me ;). The initial English variant usually has preference and shouldn't be changed (see MOS:RETAIN). Fixed the number, unfortunately the fix was reverted by an IP, but I have fixed it again. When you sign your posts, please use 4 tilde characters at the end (like ~~~~). That'll add a talkpage link and your username, so others can reply more easily.GermanJoe (talk) 10:23, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DearStaszek Lem (talk · contribs), the Executive committee consists of • Charles-Edouard Bouée - Chief Executive Officer, former COO • Tijo Collot d'Escury - Deputy CEO • Stefan Schaible - Deputy CEO • Antonio Bernardo - Member of the Executive Committee • Michel Jacob - Member of the Executive Committee • Sascha Haghani - Member of the Executive Committee • Thomas Rinn - Member of the Executive Committee Kind regards, (talk

Thanks, but please maintain this list at your own website. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:13, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The new firm's name is Roland Berger, not Roland Berger Strategy Consultants. The following is the appropriate link to "Industry specialties include automotive, consumer goods and retail, energy and chemicals, engineered products and high-tech, financial services, information communications, pharmaceuticals and health care, public services and transportation.": http://rolandberger.com/expertise/

On the "History" section please add: In September 2015 Roland Berger announced a rebranding of its business [3]: A new "titanium B" combined with the shorter brand name "Roland Berger" constitutes the new logo of the "leading international consultancy of European origin". The new brand shall demonstrate the company's evolution: Roland Berger realigned its business and broadened its portfolio beyond the scope of classic strategy consulting. The company sees itself as an integral business advisor via a new combination of consulting, technology and capital. Initiatives like the company's new European digital platform Terra Numerata™ demonstrate its expertise in digitization, new technologies and new business models.

Thank you. Franziska Poszler (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:00, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done first point OK, second point had to be drastically trimmed and made more neutral. Please see the comments in the previous thread: an encyclopedic article cannot include a company's own thoughts, plans and intentions. This is essentially unverifiable information with a strong promotional tone - we need to stick to the bare facts here: a company rebranded their business, period. Anything more "subjective" would need to come from a completely independent reliable source. GermanJoe (talk) 17:07, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very muchGermanJoe (talk · contribs). Could you also please edit the following extracts: -First, in the "Organization" section: In North America and Canada, the company has 4 offices: in Chicago, Detroit, Boston and Montreal. -Please change the heading "Leadership" to "Key people". Thank you in advance. Franziska Poszler (talk)

Done the second point (not really controversial either way). But regarding the first point: while the term "North America and Canada" is commonly used (checked via Google), it is rarely used on Wikipedia (only approx. 70 times). I am not really sure, that it would be an improvement to change the current more simple wording. ==> Maybe an American editor could check the best phrasing in this case. GermanJoe (talk) 10:03, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Franziska Poszler and GermanJoe, "North America" includes both the United States and Canada (and Mexico). To say "North America and Canada" would be equivalent to saying "Europe and Germany" — redundant and confusing. It would not be unreasonable to change it to "In the United States and Canada" but I think "In North America" works better. Most people know the difference between the United States of America and North America. I also made a slight wording change as "50 offices in 36 countries worldwide" could be challenged for copyright infringement.

The statement in the article, "EY reportedly made an offer which was eventually rejected by the partner group", is unclear; who or what is "EY"? I figured out in my reading that it's Ernst & Young, which the article now reflects.

On another note I have updated the company logo and moved the old version into the History section of the article. I am still working on the list of references Franziska Poszler provided elsewhere. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 04:13, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I also moved the page (to change its title) to Roland Berger (company). Further discussion of the move is at Talk:Roland Berger. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 11:25, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DearGrammarFascist, thank you very much for taking care of all the implementations. Please let me know if I can help you with any additional information or sources. Thanks and kind regards, Franziska Poszler--Franziska Poszler (talk) 14:19, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]