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I will run through this article today! --[[User:Kyle Peake|K. Peake]] 13:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC) |
I will run through this article today! --[[User:Kyle Peake|K. Peake]] 13:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC) |
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===Infobox and lead=== |
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*The studio needs to be sourced in the body, also change to only Cube here since the word studio is not used when the parameter is titled as such |
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*The information stating it was released as the sixth track does not need to be noted in the lead, furthermore you need to write this out fully in the body since it is not sourced as part of the album currently |
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*"written and produced by" → "The song was written and produced by" as a new sentence and like above, these credits need to be written out in prose |
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*""Fate" is a" → "It is a" and move this sentence with the following one to the first paragraph, which is too short currently, remove 2000s as that is not sourced in music and lyrics |
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*"It features guitars and" → "The song features guitars and" remove the word jaunty since quotes like this are non-notable in the lead |
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*Merge the third para with the second one as this is too short on its own |
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*"praised its lyricism," → "praised the song's lyricism," and remove the duplicated wikilink on J-pop in the reception sentence |
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*The acknowledgment of popularity is not sourced |
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*The awards need to be written out in prose too |
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===Music and lyrics=== |
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*Write the songwriting and composer credits out in prose at the start |
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*The sources cite pop-rock and punk as genres; I see no mention of funk |
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*Re-invoke [4] at the end of the sentence with direct quoting |
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*behind the lyrics. Via → behind the lyrics, via �� remove the speech marks around ''The Korea Times'' and the ref here too |
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*"fateful encounter," which captures" → "fateful encounter", which captures" |
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*The quote in prose does not show as "resonates with listeners" in the source |
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*"like 'This morning" → "like "This morning" and make sure this matches the source also |
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*"I'm so tired.'" → "I'm so tired"." per [[MOS:QUOTE]] |
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*"Jun-hwan highlights the" → "Jun-hwan highlighted the" |
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===Live video=== |
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*The netizens are not mentioned by the source |
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*"youth movie, leaving a deep lingering impression."" → "youth movie", which left "a deep lingering impression"." as these quotes are ordered separately in the source |
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*"with 3,6 million views." → "with 3.6 million views." |
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===Reception=== |
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*Retitle to Release and reception, adding an opening sentence about the song's release as the sixth track on ''2'' with a source |
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*Remove the commas from inside song titles |
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*Start a new para at the critical reception |
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*"lauds "Fate" as a" → "lauded "Fate" as a" |
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*Remove wikilink on lyricism |
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*Remove links on intuitive and plot twists |
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*"Reporter Lee Deok-haeng of ''IZE magazine'' praises" → "Reporter Lee Deok-haeng of ''IZE'' magazine praised" |
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*The source says punk, not funk-based |
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*"OST material," and" → "OST material", and" |
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*Remove the comma from inside "Super Lady" title |
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*"left a "lasting impression,"" → "left a "lasting impression"," |
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*Re-invoke [14] at the end the sentence using the "like water" quote |
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*"He noted its resurgence through" → "He noted the song's resurgence through" |
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*Online users is not appropriate language, use something to describe these type of critics named in the source instead |
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*"attributing its allure to its" → "attributing its allure to the" |
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===Accolades=== |
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*"on March 21." → "on March 21, 2024." |
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*Write the accolades that are mentioned in the lead out in prose |
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*The song of the year nomination is not sourced at MAMA |
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*I would say the table would be better if you removed the year table since all of these award ceremonies were in 2024 and instead name as 2024 MAMA Awards and 2024 Melon Music Awards in that table; this would also overlinking to the awards page |
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===Credits and personnel=== |
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*Add a source like the liner notes for these |
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*Use {{tlx|spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel |
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===Charts=== |
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*Looks good, but shouldn't the Taiwan and Singapore ones be written out in reception's prose too since they are notable? |
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===References=== |
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*[https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Fate_%28%28G%29I-dle_song%29&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 Copyvio score] looks really good at 25.4%!!! |
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*Cite JTBC as publisher instead on ref 1 |
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*Cite [[Herald Pop]] as publisher instead with the wikilink on ref 2 |
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*Wikilink ''[[NME]]'' on ref 3 instead of ref 20 |
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*''The fact'' → ''The Fact'' on ref 4 |
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*[[WP:OVERLINK]] of Naver on refs 5, 12, 13, 16, 17, 22 and 23 |
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*''www.izm.co.kr'' → ''IZM'' on ref 7 |
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*Cite [[News1]] as publisher instead with the wikilink if this is the same news website on ref 8 |
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*Cite [[Newsis]] as publisher with the wikilink on ref 11 |
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*''Yonhap News'' → [[Yonhap News Agency]] with the wikilink as publisher instead on ref 14 |
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*Cite ''Sports Dong-a'' as work/website instead on ref 17 |
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*Add a website/publisher to ref 21 |
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*Pipe ''Billboard'' to [[Billboard (magazine)]] on ref 19 instead of refs 24 and 27 |
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*Cite Circle Chart as publisher instead on refs 28 and 29 |
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===Final comments and verdict=== |
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*{{Onhold}} until all of the issues are fixed, came through now! --[[User:Kyle Peake|K. Peake]] 16:11, 15 January 2025 (UTC) |
Revision as of 16:11, 15 January 2025
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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 13:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a. (reference section):
- b. (citations to reliable sources):
- c. (OR):
- d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a. (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a. (major aspects):
- b. (focused):
- a. (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/fail:
- Pass/fail:
(Criteria marked are unassessed)
I will run through this article today! --K. Peake 13:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Infobox and lead
- The studio needs to be sourced in the body, also change to only Cube here since the word studio is not used when the parameter is titled as such
- The information stating it was released as the sixth track does not need to be noted in the lead, furthermore you need to write this out fully in the body since it is not sourced as part of the album currently
- "written and produced by" → "The song was written and produced by" as a new sentence and like above, these credits need to be written out in prose
- ""Fate" is a" → "It is a" and move this sentence with the following one to the first paragraph, which is too short currently, remove 2000s as that is not sourced in music and lyrics
- "It features guitars and" → "The song features guitars and" remove the word jaunty since quotes like this are non-notable in the lead
- Merge the third para with the second one as this is too short on its own
- "praised its lyricism," → "praised the song's lyricism," and remove the duplicated wikilink on J-pop in the reception sentence
- The acknowledgment of popularity is not sourced
- The awards need to be written out in prose too
Music and lyrics
- Write the songwriting and composer credits out in prose at the start
- The sources cite pop-rock and punk as genres; I see no mention of funk
- Re-invoke [4] at the end of the sentence with direct quoting
- behind the lyrics. Via → behind the lyrics, via – remove the speech marks around The Korea Times and the ref here too
- "fateful encounter," which captures" → "fateful encounter", which captures"
- The quote in prose does not show as "resonates with listeners" in the source
- "like 'This morning" → "like "This morning" and make sure this matches the source also
- "I'm so tired.'" → "I'm so tired"." per MOS:QUOTE
- "Jun-hwan highlights the" → "Jun-hwan highlighted the"
Live video
- The netizens are not mentioned by the source
- "youth movie, leaving a deep lingering impression."" → "youth movie", which left "a deep lingering impression"." as these quotes are ordered separately in the source
- "with 3,6 million views." → "with 3.6 million views."
Reception
- Retitle to Release and reception, adding an opening sentence about the song's release as the sixth track on 2 with a source
- Remove the commas from inside song titles
- Start a new para at the critical reception
- "lauds "Fate" as a" → "lauded "Fate" as a"
- Remove wikilink on lyricism
- Remove links on intuitive and plot twists
- "Reporter Lee Deok-haeng of IZE magazine praises" → "Reporter Lee Deok-haeng of IZE magazine praised"
- The source says punk, not funk-based
- "OST material," and" → "OST material", and"
- Remove the comma from inside "Super Lady" title
- "left a "lasting impression,"" → "left a "lasting impression","
- Re-invoke [14] at the end the sentence using the "like water" quote
- "He noted its resurgence through" → "He noted the song's resurgence through"
- Online users is not appropriate language, use something to describe these type of critics named in the source instead
- "attributing its allure to its" → "attributing its allure to the"
Accolades
- "on March 21." → "on March 21, 2024."
- Write the accolades that are mentioned in the lead out in prose
- The song of the year nomination is not sourced at MAMA
- I would say the table would be better if you removed the year table since all of these award ceremonies were in 2024 and instead name as 2024 MAMA Awards and 2024 Melon Music Awards in that table; this would also overlinking to the awards page
Credits and personnel
- Add a source like the liner notes for these
- Use
{{spaced ndash}}
so there is the right space between credits and personnel
Charts
- Looks good, but shouldn't the Taiwan and Singapore ones be written out in reception's prose too since they are notable?
References
- Copyvio score looks really good at 25.4%!!!
- Cite JTBC as publisher instead on ref 1
- Cite Herald Pop as publisher instead with the wikilink on ref 2
- Wikilink NME on ref 3 instead of ref 20
- The fact → The Fact on ref 4
- WP:OVERLINK of Naver on refs 5, 12, 13, 16, 17, 22 and 23
- www.izm.co.kr → IZM on ref 7
- Cite News1 as publisher instead with the wikilink if this is the same news website on ref 8
- Cite Newsis as publisher with the wikilink on ref 11
- Yonhap News → Yonhap News Agency with the wikilink as publisher instead on ref 14
- Cite Sports Dong-a as work/website instead on ref 17
- Add a website/publisher to ref 21
- Pipe Billboard to Billboard (magazine) on ref 19 instead of refs 24 and 27
- Cite Circle Chart as publisher instead on refs 28 and 29
Final comments and verdict
- On hold until all of the issues are fixed, came through now! --K. Peake 16:11, 15 January 2025 (UTC)