Property talk:P725

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voice actor
performer of a spoken role in a creative work such as animation, video game, radio drama, or dubbing over [use "character role" (P453) as qualifier] [use "cast member" (P161) for live acting]
DescriptionThe person who dubbed a role in the TV. e.g. Japanese dubber US TV/Film, English dubber for Anime, etc. Also used for radio dramas. Qualify with character role (P453) to refer to the item representing the character, if one exists.
Representsvoice actor (Q2405480)
Data typeItem
Template parameterNot in the info box but can be useful data
Domain
According to this template: Movies - film (Q11424)
According to statements in the property:
film (Q11424), video game (Q7889), television program (Q15416), dubbing of film (Q26204053), radio program (Q1555508), audiobook (Q106833), audiovisual work (Q2431196), voice bank (Q15524954), fictional character (Q95074), film series (Q24856), fictional gang (Q56561355), musical release (Q2031291), dubbing of television series episode (Q104217120), amusement ride (Q1144661), group of video games (Q116741534), web series episode (Q1464125) or podcast (Q20899)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuespersons (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Usage notesUse "character role" qualifier, or "name of the character role" if there is no wikidata item for the character. The qualifier "language of work or name" can also be used for media that has been dubbed into different languages.
ExampleTräume (NWDR 1951) (Q20963058) → Erich Schellow (Q1353140)
The Simpsons (Q886) → Nancy Cartwright (Q229211)
Despicable Me (Q4447) → Steve Carell (Q216221)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P725 (Q61946830)
See alsocast member (P161), character role (P453), performer (P175), narrator (P2438)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total102,486
Main statement101,76399.3% of uses
Qualifier7140.7% of uses
Reference9<0.1% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P725#Scope, SPARQL
Type “film (Q11424), video game (Q7889), television program (Q15416), dubbing of film (Q26204053), radio program (Q1555508), audiobook (Q106833), audiovisual work (Q2431196), voice bank (Q15524954), fictional character (Q95074), film series (Q24856), fictional gang (Q56561355), musical release (Q2031291), dubbing of television series episode (Q104217120), amusement ride (Q1144661), group of video games (Q116741534), web series episode (Q1464125), podcast (Q20899)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “film (Q11424), video game (Q7889), television program (Q15416), dubbing of film (Q26204053), radio program (Q1555508), audiobook (Q106833), audiovisual work (Q2431196), voice bank (Q15524954), fictional character (Q95074), film series (Q24856), fictional gang (Q56561355), musical release (Q2031291), dubbing of television series episode (Q104217120), amusement ride (Q1144661), group of video games (Q116741534), web series episode (Q1464125), podcast (Q20899)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P725#Type Q11424, Q7889, Q15416, Q26204053, Q1555508, Q106833, Q2431196, Q15524954, Q95074, Q24856, Q56561355, Q2031291, Q104217120, Q1144661, Q116741534, Q1464125, Q20899, SPARQL
Value type “human (Q5), pseudonym (Q61002)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value human (Q5), pseudonym (Q61002) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: The LEGO Batman Movie (Q23013169), WALL-E (Q104905)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P725#Value type Q5, Q61002, SPARQL
Property “sex or gender (P21)” declared by target items of “voice actor (P725)”: If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “sex or gender (P21)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P725#Target required claim P21, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P725#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
Property “languages spoken, written or signed (P1412)” declared by target items of “voice actor (P725)”: If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “languages spoken, written or signed (P1412)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P725#Target required claim P1412, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value)
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P725#Entity types
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): manga (Q8274), light novel series (Q104213567), light novel (Q747381), media franchise (Q196600), manga series (Q21198342)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P725#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): version, edition or translation (Q3331189)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P725#Conflicts with P31, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): human (Q5)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P725#Conflicts with P31, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): fictional universe (Q559618)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P725#Conflicts with P31, search, SPARQL
This property is being used by:

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Movie properties
Cast & crew
Websites
Americas
Asia
Europe
Western Europe
Eastern Europe
Northern Europe
Southern Europe
Film genres
Ratings
Lists
Other
Generic
See also

Examples

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Item: Heroes 
   Statement Starring: Ali Larter
       Qualifier character role (P453): Niki Sanders
       Qualifier character role (P453): Tracey Strauss
       Qualifier voice actor (P725): Tamura Maki
           Sub Qualifier language of work or name (P407): Japanese Language -- not possible right now
Or
   Statement Starring: Ali Larter
       Qualifier character role (P453): Niki Sanders
       Qualifier character role (P453): Tracey Strauss
   Statement voice actor (P725): Tamura Maki
       Qualifier language of work or name (P407): Japanese Language
       Qualifier character role (P453): Niki Sanders
       Qualifier character role (P453): Tracey Strauss

--Napoleon.tan (talk) 19:35, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

statement syntax

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From the discussion above, I think we should use the second option. I do some examples in The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (Q127367) --Nightwish62 (talk) 18:47, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, since there is no plan for sub qualifier. --Napoleon.tan (talk) 15:39, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


I don't think it will work for dubs this way. For example, in Hungary four dubs have been produced for Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back (Q181795), one even having another modified version. Also in The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (Q127367) the dub actors have spoken Elvish, Dwarvish and Black Speech lines along with the Hungarian, but to take a non-fantasy example in The Man from U.N.C.L.E. (Q14488725) the dub actors have German, Russian, and Italian lines along with the Hungarian. There may be different dubs for different territories in the same language. So what I propose is along the lines what's been said on Property talk:P1476, we should create items for each dub, and use this property on those items with cast member (P161) as qualifier. Those items would also have all adequate data on the dubs in them (like country of origin (P495), language of work or name (P407), director (P57), sound editor, translator (P655), commissioned by (P88) production company (P272), inception (P571), spoken title, etc.). And of course, we'd need properties to link them to the film item and vice versa. For non-dub uses it's the same as cast member (P161). – Máté (talk) 16:01, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really convinced either. What might work is a separate item for each dubbing with this property that would link to the same characters as the film item.
For animated films, characters might need to be properties instead of qualifiers. As I rarely edit the animated films, I haven't given it much thought though.
--- Jura 17:23, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So… to sum it up… you agree with what I proposed. Right? – Máté (talk) 19:18, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't actually read your dense comment that thoroughly (done). The difference seems to be that you would link the cast and not the characters. What do you include in "non-dub uses"? Animated films or just audio only?
--- Jura 19:41, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Animated films too. So anything that's original and not localisation. Yeah, I wasn't clear on that one, sorry. Whether we should use character or actor is a hard one, but most characters don't have an item (yet?), and there are cases when multiple actors are playing the same character with different dub actors voicing them. (On the other hand, there may be cases when an actor is playing multiple characters voiced by multiple dub actors. Nothing comes to mind now, but it's possible.) It would be nice to hear from @Napoleon.tan: too. – Máté (talk) 19:59, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with your proposal for the dubbing of non-animated films (linking cast). For animated films, it seems that characters are listed directly as statements and voice actors repeat those characters as qualifiers (Simpsons sample above). I'd tend to move those to a separate item per language as well. .. I will have at the P1476 question eventually.
--- Jura 20:25, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Original voice actor

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The original proposal seems to have been a bit ambiguous on this issue: Should the property be used for the original version's voice actors? For example, should Dumbo (Q40895) use voice actor (P725) instead of the currently used cast member (P161)? --Yair rand (talk) 05:15, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Radio dramas

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Before TV series and video games there where voice actors in radio dramas. Imho we should use this property for these actors as well. (Descriptions and labels in some languages indicates this property is only for films.) --Kolja21 (talk) 13:31, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This property is used for voice actors = voice actor (Q2405480). Subgroups:
dub actor (Q11481802) (film & tv)
audio drama actor (Q1314140) (radio, audio productions)
audiobook narrator (Q20856740) (audio productions)
The descriptions are not consistent yet. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:10, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Seiyū (Japanese voice actors)

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Here is something I have noticed when adding voice actors for Japanese series. Adding any person with seiyū as an occupation, but not voice actor as a voice actor results in the series being added to the constraint violations list. The current restrictions for this property don't recognize seiyū as voice actors. Could that be altered in some way?

You're right. I added seiyū (Q622807) to the list of required occupations. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 10:47, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Update labels?

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  • Italian: "doppiatore"
  • Catalan: "actor de doblatge"
  • French: "comédien de doublage"

..etc.

Maybe the above should be updated to match more closely "voice actor". --- Jura

French label

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Following this request for comments, the French label now includes the male and the female form. PAC2 (talk) 05:37, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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