The Sword and Laser discussion

I am looking for more authors in a similar vain to Joe Abercrombie.I am just finishing the ties that bind series which has been fun although not as well written.I would be very grateful for any suggestions
many thanks J

Great thanks Louise

Grimdark is a common name for it, yes. I have a shelf of it if you're interested with ratings and reviews for most I believe.

My top suggestion would be Malazan Fallen

Second Malazan. Also The Lies of Locke Lamora.

Louise wrote: "Grimdark, I think. I haven't read Joe Abercrombie but I've definitely heard his work described as that. Perhaps a search for that on here might come up with something."

Abercrombie's Twitter handle is @LordGrimdark, so that answers that. :p
According to a blog post I read a while back he doesn't really like the term, because a lot of people use it dismissively, but since people insist on naming him a trendsetter in the "genre" he thought he might as well make it his own.

Malazan is great and very grimdark. Although it's not the easiest series to get into.

Mark Lawrence would be another example. His series starts with Prince of Thorns.

Brent Weeks is another good one to look at

R. Scott Bakker's "Prince of Nothing"

Richard K. Morgan's The Steel Remains

The Black Company by Glen Cook, which in my opinion is the original gritty fantasy series.

I agree with the Black Company series. I would also add the Demon Cycle series by Peter Brett.

I agree with all the above recomnendations. read them all. I would also add Tom Lloyds Stormcaller

What about the coldfire trilogy by c.s. Friedman

Oh i loved heroes die. Gritty fantasy with just a touch of science fiction for flavor.

Scourge of the Betrayer by Jeff Salyards also definitely fits the bill.

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I would just like to say thanks to all your help an suggestions they should keep me busy for a while
thanks again J

Only trouble I can see with the grimdark label is that it is commonly attributed in a derogative way to works like Warhammer 40k or Judge Dredd. In these works, the grim and darkness is simply way over the top into parody land, that's why I can understand Mr. Abercrombie doesn't like the tag very much.

Check out Blood song by Anthony Ryan best one I've picked up recnetly

I'm debating giving Brent Weeks' Night Angel a shot, but I have to admit it looks a bit cheesy. Is it good or does it read like a Forgotten Realms book? Also, R. Scott Bakker get's my vote for top notch grimdark.

Personally I enjoyed The Way of Shadows, but thought each following book got worse. Many seem to enjoy the whole trilogy though.