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Has been confirmed many times his powers are gone {{{sig}}}

Hi Everyone. I just thought I'd raise this topic here because a recent edit I made to this page got reverted by Raff2159. I do believe that the fact that Peter Quill was able to survive the space vacuum again for some time at the end of the Attack on Arête Laboratories and then fully recover from it at the end (although that might have been due to treatment he received) is a possible indicator that Quill might have retained some of his endurance/durability as a result of his hybrid/Celestial DNA because Quill otherwise should have either died from that or ended up in intensive care (given his face swelled/bloated). I was just wondering what others think about this and I would be very grateful if anyone else can please give their thoughts on this because I personally find it somewhat dubious that Quill completely lost his Celestial abilities after Ego's death - I get he most likely would have lost his abilities like Molecular Manipulation and Cosmic Energy Manipulation but whether all his physical abilities from his Celestial DNA were lost is debatable to me.

I might also mention that even though it is titled "Former Powers", there is a bit I have added which says - "Despite having already lost his Celestial powers by then, he again was able to endure space exposure for some time during the Attack on Arête Laboratories even though he almost died in the process before Adam Warlock rescued him in time."

So with that in mind, I would support keeping his Superhuman Durability as a current power (bear in mind that space exposure is mentioned in the Thor article in the Powers section under "Superhuman Durability" which makes me further support that inclusion here) and keeping all his other powers in the Former Powers section as I had done in my edit before that got reverted. However, if anyone else believes that him surviving space exposure again doesn't count as a superhuman ability/power, then the things I would suggest instead is either mentioning that in the Personality section (as part of willpower or mental endurance) or have it mentioned in the Abilities section entitled "Enhanced Durability"/"Enhanced Endurance" or something similar. Many thanks. Broman178 (talk) 16:24, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

It has been confirmed time and time again that Quill had lost his Celestial powers. On top of that, there is a source edit warning in the page telling users not to add or change the power set because wiki projects have already covered it. Saying he has the powers bck would be speculation and incorrect. - Raff • Message Wall • Contributions 18:01, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

This and the fact that it was most certainly just meant to be a moment where Quill almost died and is fine. It wasn't meant to indicate any powers, just him nearly dying. It seems as if they didn't think about how long it was. He's simply human now and I don't think the fact that his survival isn't realistic is particularly worth noting.-Jessica3801 (talk) 18:43, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Very well & thank you both for your replies. I still do respectfully disagree with that even if its officially confirmed (I'm entitled to have my own opinion on this even if others consider it to be incorrect) but I do try to respect provided sources, consensus and other's viewpoints where possible as I do prefer to avoid edit warring if there are other options. I think in that case, I'll remove the second bit from the Superhuman Durability section stating that he survived space exposure a second time during the Attack on Arête Laboratories but I'll keep the first bit with the Skirmish on Knowhere as Quill did have his Celestial powers then and the vacuum didn't seem to affect him as badly as it did the second time. I think the fact that he risked space exposure a second time however is something which could instead be mentioned in the Personality section because that to me links with his then supposed attachment to his Zune & his possession of it at the time (when of course in reality he intended to pass it on to Rocket). Broman178 (talk) 19:30, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Now done these changes, although while I did initially state I would remove the bit about the Arête Laboratories from the Superhuman Durability bit, I've decided to keep that (but as a reworded format) as a contrast to the first bit. Broman178 (talk) 20:26, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

His willingness to risk his life for the Zune can be noted, that's not the part that was the problem. You suggested using his survival in that section to talk about willpower, that's what shouldn't be mentioned. -Jessica3801 (talk) 05:36, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

He doesn't have Celestial DNA anymore, which means he's not supposed to have the durability either. However, now that SL powers are in the question, I'd agree with the superhuman strength because he actually demonstrated that. If it wasn't there before, but I don't recall it being there. -Mvrr (talk) 14:54, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

He still has Celestial DNA... He just can't access its powers. MJLogan95 (talk) 18:15, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

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