User talk:Gamaliel: Difference between revisions

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • A few proposals for missing properties for Wikivoyage listings have been made
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Panama Papers and Wikidata made quite a splash online
    • Occupations of persons from Panama Papers
    • Panama Papers bubble chart shows politicians are most mentioned in document leak database
  • EveryPolitician: I use Wikidata for multilingual names
  • Random item: Q14829494
  • Lots of papers relevant to Wikidata or about Wikidata haven been published at ICWSM
  • Wikidata through the Eyes of DBpedia
  • Wikidata Map May 2016 (Belarus & Uganda)
  • Geospatial search for Wikidata Query Service
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • We made a huge step for small Wikipedias and small languages online by rolling out the ArticlePlaceholder on the first 4 Wikipedias
  • Geospatial search is now up and running on the query service. You can now search for items within a geographic area.
  • The Wikidata Graph Builder has a refreshed interface with even more controls
  • Sitelinks for the new Jumiekan Patwa Wikipidia (in Jamaican Patois) are being added
  • Mapbox's Geocoder now uses Wikidata
  • PetScan now has query examples
  • d:Wikidata:Wikidata for authority control collects examples of usage of Wikidata for authority control
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: professional name (Japan), month number, highest income threshold, lowest income threshold, individual tax rate, ARKive ID, Joint Electronics Type Designation Automated System designation, totem, Online World of Wrestling ID, Internet Wrestling Database ID, corporate officer
  • Query examples: longest rivers (source), map of places mentioned in travel stories with text in French accessible online (source), things located where the equator meets the prime meridian (source), people who acted with Brad Pitt (source), Italian mountains higher than 4000mt (source), who died by burning (source), age at date of death for musicians (source), universities of main programming language authors (source), hashtags (source), Pokemon! (source)
  • Showcase items: Iron Man 2 (Q205028)
• Development
  • Deployed the ArticlePlaceholder on the first 4 Wikipedias and worked on issues that were found
  • Incident report of issues with the query service
  • Worked on language fallback in the main header (screenshot, phabricator:T98014)
  • More work on Commons prototype
  • Worked on timeline as another visualization for the query service (phabricator:T135222)
  • Fixed missing message for translation for Wikibase repo - thanks Matěj! (phabricator:T124766)
  • We are now generating translatable automatic comments for undo and restore operations - thanks Matěj! (phabricator:T41134)
  • Fixed issue with autocompletion on the query service (phabricator:T133317)
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 16:22, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gamaliel has resigned as an arbitrator because he is currently unable to edit the English Wikipedia and is therefore entirely inactive as an arbitrator. This has come about as a result of circumstances which have been disclosed to the Committee, and which in no way reflect negatively on him. We thank Gamaliel for his service on the 2016 Committee to date and wish him the best.

For the Arbitration Committee, Opabinia regalis (talk) 03:04, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For the Arbitration Committee [cross-posted], Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 03:44, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Announcement regarding Gamaliel

Hi Gamaliel, in the open Gamaliel and others arbitration case, a remedy or finding of fact has been proposed which relates to you.  Please review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the proposed decision talk page. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Miniapolis 13:35, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've got a friend who's a writer and a columnist who wrote several pieces about the Gamergate stuff - to this day, those freaktards won't stop harassing and hounding him. They even tried to SWAT him twice. It must really suck watching them given free rein to harass people here. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 21:09, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Discussions about missing properties for Wikivoyage listings are progressing as enhancements are suggested
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Gotta catch 'em all if they are prime
  • Paper: Are Superstar Artworks also Digital Superstars? Online Popularity of Worldfamous Artworks
  • Upcoming: Wikicite (session proposals)
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • In about 2 weeks we will get the ArticlePlaceholder to more Wikipedias. Let us know if yours wants to be in.
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: produced by, Wi-Fi, Google+, wheelchair accessibility, RAN ID, incidence, Benezit ID, place of marriage, age of onset, NSC number, gait
  • Query examples: given names with most variations (source with links to graphs), papers about Wikidata (source), memes (source), cathedrals in Paris (source), highest mountains in the universe (source), Law & Order episodes (source), things/people with most children (source)
• Development
  • Performance improvements in query service map display.
  • Fixed a focus issue in the suggester (phabricator:T135008)
  • Further groundwork on Commons support
  • Fixed first issues that popped up after ArticlePlaceholder deployment based on feedback
  • Investigated and prepared fix for issue where files on Commons couldn't be deleted (phabricator:T135485)
  • Finished work on language fallback in main part of header (phabricator:T98014)
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 14:50, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Gamaliel. Dumuzid (talk) 21:47, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	Thank you for brightening up my first of April, what a shame it was deleted. :( T.i 18:34, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • New request for comments: Standards for property proposal discussions, Semi-automatic Addition of References to Wikidata Statements
  • Import of Wiki Loves Monuments database
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Past: WikiCite (including links to documentation etherpads)
    • interview with Open Science Radio
  • Past: Gulaschprogrammiernacht (video)
  • Ben Whishaw, Broadway, La Rada et WWikidata
  • Meet TED’s Wikipedians-in-Residence
  • Orte, die mit 'ow' oder 'itz' enden
• Other Noteworthy Stuff

  

  • Charlie published her thesis about editing Wikidata directly from Wikipedia and co
  • Learning pattern about using data of Wikipedia and Wikidata in Google spreadsheet
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: Library of the National Congress of Argentina ID, Minitel, SureChEMBL ID, type of unit for this property, property usage tracking category, PubChem BioAssay ID (AID), time in space, tourist office, miRBase mature miRNA ID, miRBase pre-miRNA ID, record or record progression, has role, Molenecho's ID, Hollandsche Molen ID, Band number, OpenCritic ID, Nederlandse Molendatabase ID, Catalogus Professorum Academiae Rheno-Traiectinae ID, Leidse Hoogleraren ID, cites, X-SAMPA Code, KLOV ID, WWE.com superstar ID, EU Surface Water Body Code, VAT-rate, disease burden, electrical plug type, emergency phone number, payment types accepted, iTunes artist ID
  • Query examples: Fictional universes with most fictional planets (source), main subject of West Wing episodes (source), places with free wifi (source), citation network of paper about Zika (source), taxons and what they are named after (source), billionaires (source), animals that were executed (source), chemical elements and their isotopes by number of neutrons (min/max) (source), popes with children (source), birthplaces of astronauts (source)
• Development
  • Worked on fix for issue with language fallback in main part of header (phabricator:T135714)
  • More work on support for Commons - main focus right now is on making it possible to actually store a new entity without jumping through hoops
  • Fixing a bug in Internet Explorer with prevents editing (phabricator:T136543)
  • Worked on more blockers for next deployment of the ArticlePlaceholder (phabricator:T135624)
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 18:24, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We hope you enjoy the newest issue of the Education Newsletter.--Sailesh Patnaik (Distribution leader) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:53, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

An arbitration case regarding Gamaliel and others has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

1. Gamaliel is admonished for multiple breaches of Wikipedia policies and guidelines including for disrupting Wikipedia to make a point, removing a speedy deletion notice from a page he created, casting aspersions, and perpetuating what other editors believed to be a BLP violation.
2. DHeyward and Gamaliel are indefinitely prohibited from interacting with or discussing each other anywhere on Wikipedia, subject to the usual exemptions.
3. DHeyward (talk · contribs) is admonished for engaging in incivility and personal attacks on other editors. He is reminded that all editors are expected to engage respectfully and civilly with each other and to avoid making personal attacks.
4. For conduct which was below the standard expected of an administrator — namely making an incivil and inflammatory close summary on ANI, in which he perpetuated the perceived BLP violation and failed to adequately summarise the discussion — JzG is admonished.
5. Arkon is reminded that edit warring, even if exempt, is rarely an alternative to discussing the dispute with involved editors, as suggested at WP:CLOSECHALLENGE.
6. The community is encouraged to hold an RfC to supplement the existing WP:BLPTALK policy by developing further guidance on managing disputes about material involving living persons when that material appears outside of article space and is not directly related to article-content decisions.

For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others closed

Gamaliel,

This arb case was a joke that should have never happened. You posted an April Fools joke, and sadly, your detractors saw it as a chance to run you out of the Wikipedia. I'm sorry to see that you've retired and hope that you'll return to Wikipedia. KoshVorlon 11:03, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

	The Special Barnstar
	Thank you! Please come back soon, we need more people like you. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please come back! This wasn't necessary for an ArbCom case, and we need good editors like you.

ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 13:10, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Upcoming: OpenData.ch
  • Upcoming: HackHPI
  • Upcoming: ELAG
  • Documentation of the outcomes of WikiCite
  • Wikidata showing chemical properties with references
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • SQID now also shows references for statements and received a whole bunch of other nice features
  • wikidata-cli now has a wdsparql command to work with SPARQL from the command line
  • It seems we already have almost 0.4% of the current population of Finland on Wikidata.
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: exact match, reserve number (Canada), Shakeosphere person ID, mains voltage, HKMDb film ID, relegated, promoted, NIOSHTIC-2 ID
  • Query examples: body of water with the most watercourses ending in it (source), French communes with names ending in ac (source), birthplaces of Europeana280 artists (source), popular eye colors (source)
• Development
  • Fixed the bug where the language selector in Special:NewItem doesn't recognize certain languages (phabricator:T115792)
  • Fixed issues that prevented editing in Internet Explorer (phabricator:T136543)
  • Added new visualization to the query service to visualize graphs like family trees. It is now deployed yet but will come soon.
  • Worked on new visualization for the query service to visualize results with data on different dimensions
  • Improved build and deploy process for the query service. The site should load faster now.
  • Improved the formatting of dates and more in the query service.
  • More fixes to get ArticlePlaceholder ready for the second round of wikis
  • Worked on a fix for the issue where sometimes an old label is shown in the main header of an item (phabricator:T135714)
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 14:28, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • New request for comments: Semi-automatic Addition of References to Wikidata Statements - feedback on the Primary Sources Tool
  • Others: Discussion about currency conversion rates, P2893_-_wrong_datatype
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Upcoming: Wikimania - find all the Wikidata things happening here
  • Upcoming: Repo-Fringe 2016
  • Past: HackHPI
  • Past: ELAG (slides)
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Passionate about Wikidata and a great communicator? We are looking to hire a community communications person.
  • Gujarati, Latvian and Nynorsk Wikipedia now have the ArticlePlaceholder as well.
  • Catalan and Polish Wikipedia will show Wikidata descriptions on the mobile website starting soon. More Wikipedias will follow. (phabricator:T135429)
  • Into football/soccer? WikiProject Association football/Euro 2016 could use your help.
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: RateBeer brewery ID, Beer Advocate brewery ID, Molendatabase verdwenen molens ID, fax number, minimum age, Swedish county letter, Eldoblaje Movie ID, publication interval, maximum sustained winds, day of week, Skype, UMLS CUI, FamilySearch ID
  • Query examples: Eiffel Tower in art (source), popular surnames among humans (source), popular surnames among fictional characters (source), average lifespan by occupation (source), German breweries (source), years with 3 popes (source), people who died by burning - on a timeline (source)
  • Newest WikiProjects: Lighthouses, Roller Coasters
• Development
  • Worked on creating mediainfo entities on demand when a file is viewed that doesn't have an associated mediainfo entity yet. This is needed for structured data support for Commons.
  • Worked on making it possible to embed query results in other websites. You can get a preview at https://jonaskress.github.io
  • Added timeline as a possible visualization for the query service.
  • Investigated issues with downloading query result sets in Safari.
  • Got ArticlePlaceholder ready for the second round of Wikipedias.
  • Fixed bug where map wasn't enabled as a possible visualization for queries with cooridnates.
• You can soon specify the color of the bubbles in a bubble chart visualization. (phabricator:T137061)
  • Fixed a bug with terms sometimes not showing up, language fallback not working correctly in Lua modules and connection to master database
  • Fixed a bug with URL encoding in the query service.
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 14:25, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:36, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Upcoming: Wikimania
  • Upcoming: WikiConvention francophone
  • Past: GLAM Wiki Boot Camp
  • Past: Silicon Mountain Conf
  • Past: OpenData.ch
  • Past: Semantic Web + Wikidata
  • Wikidata beim Hackathon HackHPI in Potsdam
  • Data Ex Machina
  • Op-ed in the Wikipedia Signpost regarding Wikidata licensing
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • ORES is not available as a beta feature to make it easier to find bad edits
  • New user script to show the main image of an item is ready for testing
  • Into football/soccer? WikiProject Association football/Euro 2016 could use your help.
  • Want to see Wikidata changes in the history of a Wikipedia article? There is a user script that needs your feedback.
  • We are looking for people who work on list articles.
  • You can test a gadget that lets you easily run a query for more items with the same statement.
  • Language fallback is now happening on Wikipedia and co
  • Maps are now enabled on Wikidata
  • First beta release of StrepHit
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: Great Russian Encyclopedia Online ID, focal height, month of the year, label in sign language, PO Box, COAM ID, syntax clarification, ECARTICO person ID, MSBI person ID, date depicted, distinctive jersey, time gap, icon, SecondHandSongs artist ID, SecondHandSongs song ID, timezone offset
  • Query examples: colors of chemical compounds (source), map of braodway venues (source), sculptures by Max Bill (source), works of art where the name might be a rhyme (source), works of art where the title is an alliteration (source)
  • Newest WikiProjects: Professional Wrestling
  • ORDER BY RAND() LIMIT 100 can avoid timeouts on Wikidata Query Service (source)
• Development
  • Worked on making it easier to add new query examples right from the query service by just clicking a button. There are some technical issues with it still though. Will take a while to sort through.
  • More work on creating new Media-Info entities (the equivalent of item for media file data) on the fly (phabricator:T134259)
  • Fixed a but with suggestions not showing up (phabricator:T138059)
  • Improved display of query examples (phabricator:T137589) and cleaned them up
  • Improved database access (phabricator:T137539)
  • Fixed a but with the rank selector (phabricator:T109583)
  • Started concept work for automated list generation
  • Discussed the proposal for Wiktionary with a linguist to get more detailed feedback on it. Very positive.
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 13:29, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Christina Grimmie. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Ethics in journalism and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted in most arbitration pages please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.

Thanks, Rhoark (talk) 18:24, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • New request for comments: Verifiability and living persons, RfP voting eligibility
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Past: Wikimania! The Wikidata-related program parts including slides and notes can be found on the Wikidata Wikimania page.
  • TIB and HsH project approved: The replication of Open-Access images
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • EasyQuery is now a gadget that you can enable in your preferences. It gives you an icon next to each statement value. That gives you a list of other items with the same statement.
  • Stats have been updated and show a significant jump in references.
  • SQID now shows references (example)
  • INSPIRE HEP has been added to Mix'n'match
  • PAWS is now available. It lets you easily run a Jupyter notebook and much more.
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: language used, connector, Encyclopedia of Triangle Centers identifier, INSPIRE-HEP author ID, lighthouse range, memory capacity, water as percent of area, InterPro ID, domain of saint or deity
  • Query examples: sandwich ingredients (source), inventors killed by their own invention (source), objects with most mass (source), music genres (source), number of jurisdictions by driving side (source)
• Development
  • The majority of the Wikidata developers team atteded Wikimania
  • You can now embed query results from query.wikidata.org in other websites (example)
  • Linking MediaInfo entities to media files in the "MediaInfo for Commons" prototype (phabricator:T134473)
  • Tracking more statistics for the ArticlePlaceholder (phabricator:T138500)
  • Adding support for quantity values with unknown uncertainty (phabricator:T115269)
  • Worked on fix for bug where new entities can be created with wrong language (phabricator:T138725)
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 16:48, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion. Legobot (talk) 04:26, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Europeana280 Art History Challenge has finished
    • Europeana blog post
    • video
    • Wikimedia blog post
  • The life and times of Mr Herbert Ellerby: Linking Llandudno, Lancashire, and Moggill, Australia
  • Wikidata auf der GPN
  • Past: PSESHSF (You can sign up to be notified about more Wikidata workshops in France)
  • Past: Swiss Open Cultural Data Hackathon
  • Upcoming: office hour on IRC
  • Upcoming: State of the Map US in Seattle - http://stateofthemap.us/
  • Upcoming: Wikimedia UK AGM with Wikidata training
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • There is now a 100wikidatadays challenge based on the 100wikidays challenge for Wikipedia. The goal: convert 100 templates to make use of Wikidata over the course of 100 days.
  • Tobias started writing a tutorial on how to write infoboxes that make use of Wikidata's data and could use your help expanding it.
  • Thiemo wrote a user script to pre-fill "date retrieved" in a reference with the current date. Please test and let us know what you think ont he linked page. If you like it it can become a gadget.
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: British Book Trade Index ID, Plarr ID, warheroes.ru ID, Dailymotion channel ID, Munk's Roll ID, Catalogus Professorum Rostochensium ID, CageMatch tag team ID, Pleiades place type identifier, parliamentary term
  • Query examples: Ancestors of Guðni Jóhannesson (note the last names), movies with Bud Spencer (source), largest cities per country (source), longest river of each continent (source), rivers in Antarctica (source), continents (source), and some other continents (source), places with continent Antarctica more than 3000 km north of south pole (source), files used as “image” in more than 10 items (source), monuments historiques in Loire-Atlantique (source), music composers by birth place (source), places of whorship (source), teachers with most students (source), buildings in more than one country (source), sandwiches (source), composers and their most-used tonality (source), former capitals (source), list of suicide attacks (source), birthplaces of people named Antoine (source), places that are below 10 meters above sea level (source)
  • Newest WikiProjects: Etymology, Knowledge Organization Systems
  • Newest external tools: Navel Gazer (users statement addition counts)
• Development
  • More groundwork for Commons. We can now save a statement in the new MediaInfo entity type \o/ (Some minor issues still with the demo system but should be solved next week.)
  • Fixed a display issue with description tooltips in recent changes. Thanks Matěj Suchánek! (phabricator:T89663)
  • Refactored quite some of the sitelinks-related JavaScript code (phabricator:T127056 and gerrit:294687. This may break some existing gadgets and user scripts temporarily.
  • Updated the graphic representing the data model in Wikidata: long, medium, short
  • Fixed problem with editing statements on Wikidata, after last week's deployment (phabricator:T138974)
  • Started interviews to find user needs and workflows for automated list generation (phabricator:T139284)
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 16:51, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Using archive.is. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ranze

I'm supposed to notify you about this since you put it in place. I skipped requesting directly since it says you are retired and if I waited and didn't begin it now I'd probably forget and put it off another several months.

Sorry for the bother if you are not interested, I don't mean to harass someone who has retired from editing. Ranze (talk) 06:44, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]