User talk:Jenhawk777

12 December 2024
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	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	For your well-chosen words at Talk:Christian ethics. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:15, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Phenomenal job on History of Christian thought on persecution and tolerance! Your deep grasp of the scholarly literature and your tireless commitment to addressing my large number of comments and generally improving the article is very impressive! Thank you for all your hard work! DocFreeman24 (talk) 14:46, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	For your diligence at Biblical criticism and elsewhere. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:56, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your praises played by Moop Mama, more on my talk, or the Main page ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:20, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

		The Friendship Barnstar
		Thank you again for your kind comments and friendly gesture. You are a fine example of a Kindness Campaign member. History DMZ (talk)+(ping) 04:09, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Feel free to take over the 'Gerda's newsletter' idea. I'm going to re-focus on maybe starting a Kindness Campaign newsletter :)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		You definitely deserve this for your work on History of Christian thought on persecution and tolerance! HouseBlaster (talk) 17:47, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A year ago ...

"What do you mean, I can´t rewrite the entire article!?"
... you were recipient no. 1915 of Precious, a prize of QAI!

miss you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:58, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

		The Christianity Barnstar
		You deserve this for your herculean efforts to improve Biblical criticism and respond to the comments at its recent FAC. As Gog mentioned in the closing note, with some additional work it will have a good chance at passing next time around. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 05:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

		The Christianity Barnstar
		Dear Jenhawk777, I award you The Christianity Barnstar for all your hard work in WikiProject Christianity-related articles, especially your recent creation of Evolutionary theodicy. Keep up the good work! Your efforts are making a difference here! With regards, AnupamTalk 04:21, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thank you Jenhawk777 for the message that you left on Gerda's page for me. Truly, the volunteers of these huge projects like WP, LibriVox, DP cannot go the extra mile without people like Gerda and you, who inject fresh energy into the volunteers. The kind words are our only salary, and fortunately we all can pay each other a lot. :) Qapisce (talk) 10:57, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

		The Order of the Superior Scribe of Wikipedia
		For all the time and effort you have put in — across thousands of edits — to markedly improve numerous articles related to Christianity all these years. The magnitude of the positive impact you have had with regard to Wikipedia's coverage of academic topics related to Christianity is unprecedented; I cannot think of any other editor who has worked so rigorously and improved those topics to the extent that you have. You are a phenomenal editor and your work is awe-inspiring. Thank you for all that you do! — The Most Comfortable Chair 21:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This has touched me so deeply I almost cried. Thank you so, so very much. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

		The Original Barnstar
		For tireless and invaluable efforts on creating and improving Christianity-related pages. Avilich (talk) 12:10, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not the first you receive, but the first I ever hand out. Avilich (talk) 12:10, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Avilich Bless your heart! Thank you so much! This is very kind of you and I appreciate it. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:10, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The content now reads as a proper Wikipedia article as well. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 10:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ActivelyDisinterested Bless you! Thank you! I so deeply appreciate you and all your work. You are still the one I will reach out to when I have a problem, but you have taught me a lot, and this article was just too much to ask someone else to do for me. I would have enjoyed banging my head against a wall more, but hey, I followed your example and got it done. I put it up for peer review and others suggested adding back a theology section which I am beginning work on today. Thank you again. You are a great blessing. Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:22, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

September songs

		The Original Barnstar
		For excellent work on Theodosius I and Massacre of Thessalonica Richard Keatinge (talk) 21:02, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

story · music · places

memories -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:39, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For a surprise, a Bach cantata is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An open letter open to be signed (more info just below and on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did sign it. I think maybe I've read some of Beutler tho not Riffaud. We are losing that whole generation aren't we? They are leaving behind a valuable legacy. Who is coming up to take their place? Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I uploaded more pics, on a mountain in the sun above the fog. - Madeleine Riffaud - remember. - Another theologian died, - please check the English. No idea what Fundamentaltheology is, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:23, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang Hevenu shalom aleichem at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wanna sign a petition? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For what? If it's for recognizing how great you are, yes. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:15, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That WMF shouldn't give your name and address to an Indian court, basically. More at Wikipedia_talk:2024_open_letter_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation#Context?. Me and Gerda signed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:21, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How and where do I sign? Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:47, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:2024 open letter to the Wikimedia Foundation. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Btw, I don't know if you remember, but I think one of your earliest "clashes" on WP (check your 2017 archive) was with the Great Wikipedian Doug Weller. Sadly, User_talk:Doug_Weller#Update_on_cancer. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I can get behind that.

My interaction with Doug doesn't really qualify as a clash. He was trying to help me by directing me to the Teahouse for additional learning back when I was in a panic over Jytdog. Inexperience on WP on my part, and bias on Jytdog's, produced a perfect storm for me, but Doug was nice about it. I'm very sorry to hear he is ill. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:46, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He's one of the very few I've contacted off-wiki when I saw the need. Admin, former arbcom member, sound mind. And we were both disliked by a Wikipedian who thought she was a descendant of Jesus and Mary Magdalene (true story). She did some socking and one of her accounts was named Doug Dumbass (subtle). For some reason he don't think [1] is funny, but Great Wikipedians are allowed to be eccentric. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:09, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good night nurse!! I don't think I was ever rude to Doug! I hope not. Perhaps if I was it was a case of fork handles... . Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That petition took of a bit. I actually started this thread Wikipedia:Community_response_to_Asian_News_International_vs._Wikimedia_Foundation#The_Asian_News_International_vs._Wikimedia_Foundation_situation in October (originally at the the Village pump, but it's been moved), and I'm pretty sure it's the longest WP-thread I've ever started. It's Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_327#Scriptural_texts_(WP:RSPSCRIPTURE) x5. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:31, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. A long and seemingly pointless argument imo. Primary sources have limited value and not just in religion. Most commentaries are akin to a modern blog, and should not be quoted as authoritative.

I went to a State school. My religion professors were not all believers, and of those that were, they weren't all Christian. They flunked any paper, any person, who did not practice accepted mainstream scholarship. They defined mainstream scholarship by its use of modern critical method - by "methodological naturalism" - and what is verifiable historically - which in religion, isn't much when it comes down to it. I graduated #1 in my class and won a full ride to Vanderbilt grad school, and I did not do so by quoting dubious commentaries that reflected personal belief. On WP, I have never used a commentary in any religion article I have ever worked on and never will. (I am clearly infinitely superior in every way... and humble of course...)

We just have to follow the same standards no matter the topic. Problem solved. Religion discussions are not quite as bad as politics, but they tend to be filled with passionate personal opinion that is usually blind to its very nature as personal - and that happens on both sides of the divide. Sigh. You and me bud. And Gerda of course. Everyone else is a bit nuts... Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:12, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the laugh! Yep, noone would think there's something nuts in dedicating hours to this place. But as I told my brother recently, I can do this, or something like watch a tv-series, play a video-game, read a novel, solve a crossword (and I do most of those). But WP has elements of all those things, so I like to do that too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:25, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is hard to explain the appeal to non-wikipedias isn't it? Long hours of research and reading, recording minutiae into an outdated format to occasionally obtain over-the-top criticisms from people you'll never meet for work they don't even recognize. Whhoohoo! What fun! At least one of my children thinks I am simply wasting time, and that is no doubt absolutely true from time to time. Yet we all go to WP first when looking something up! But you know, personal tastes are impossible to explain or justify to others. My dad loved golf and that is completely inexplicable to me... :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there are annoying people you encounter, but there is also the complete opposite, like yourself, and that makes it worth it. And the successes, though perhaps minor, can be so effing rewarding. Cooperating with unknown people you perhaps just share a narrow interest with can be so fun.

A while back, the wife of Skeeter Reece asked me if there was any way we could get a pic she had of her husband and a somewhat known boxer onto WP, she had the only copy. I managed to find the photographer who took it in 80:s online (unusual name, now an astronomer and used to be married to Richard Pryor). Mrs Reece called her, and she agreed to do the Commons-thing, which is not that easy for a beginner. So now the world can look at File:The Champ and The Clown.jpg, I put it in every article I could think of. Call me nuts, but I like that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:02, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome. Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Going back to the start of the thread, there's now over a thousand signatures. I don't know if you've been following the India-story at all. This video is a little long, but interesting. And the guy reminds me a bit of Jar Jar Binks. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:47, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LOL!! Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How can I open wicca death door --Cris is wicca (talk) 07:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yo Cris is wicca (talk) 07:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea to what you are referring. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WHAT FrontRub (talk) 10:30, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How To Create A Bot --FrontRub (talk) 10:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know anything about bots. Sorry. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:47, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I Have No Idea What Cris is wicca Is Saying FrontRub (talk) 10:30, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Which religion? --Haraf13 (talk) 11:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me? Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:41, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, sorry I guess? Haraf13 (talk) 11:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haraf13 I don't know what you are asking exactly. Perhaps you could clarify. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is ACES Columbia A Airline??? FrontRub (talk) 06:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is this about? Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:08, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How do I make a article in wp. On mobile? Please help by explaining 😀. Please tell me. --Haraf13 (talk) 11:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The process is the same no matter the medium. Follow these steps: Help:Your first article Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In this edit, it appears that you either removed more than you intended to or possibly less than you intended to. I added back a bit that I figured you had accidentally removed, but I suppose you might have actually been trying to remove more. 183.89.250.246 (talk) 12:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’m Intrested In Planes FrontRub (talk) 14:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:24, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, please i want to ask you a question. What is the main purpose of editing on Wikipedia?

Please don't be offended, am new on Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rexvide Robotics (talk • contribs) 15:16, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply] 

I am never offended by questions. Your purpose here is entirely up to you. Welcome! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:55, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I am new to the platform and want to learn how to use Wikipedia's review process. I'll start with a tutorial unless you have something else to recommend. --Cannellfreelance (talk) 20:44, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Go Here Help:Contents and read before doing anything else. Follow the instructions. Jenhawk777 (talk) 05:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - I was the first GM of Triple M FM in Brisbane. The early history of the radio station is incorrect. How can I contribute and rectify, please? --RobbieDoll (talk) 01:35, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of the interesting conundrums about Wikipedia. We can't simply take your word. It doesn't mean we actually think you are prevaricating, but all Wikipedia articles must have secondary sources, and if you don't have sources that say what you say, you can't say it. You would be a primary source, and we can't reference primary sources. Find a good secondary source. That's your only hope. Jenhawk777 (talk) 05:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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story · music · places

On the Main page today Jean Sibelius on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's Fifth from the opening of Notre-Dame de Paris. We sang in choirs today. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We had beautiful music today as well including Handel's Messiah. Amazing. Love and happy holidays to you and yours. Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds great! - Listen today to the (new) Perplexities after Escher. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was glad for the reopening of Notre Dame. I was there in the 60s and was very distressed at its damage. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:58, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi mentor, do you know how to change a photo used on a wikipage? I would like to edit the page of a favorite celebrity to have a nicer more flattering photo, thanks for your kind help on it. --WikiAccumen (talk) 07:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiAccumen More details are needed. Basic rule of thumb is that any random pic you find online is under copyright and can't be used. Apart from old stuff in the public domain, and some stuff by governments, WP is generally restricted to pics uploaded here by the copyright holder, almost always the photographer. We can't use a pic because "nice", we go by "per rulez". So, we have a lot of pics from comic cons etc.

So, with that in mind, what pic did you want to use? If you are in contact with this celebrity, you can point them to Wikipedia:A picture of you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh okay, thanks for your response, to be more specific, just wanted to remove a more unflattering pic on the page, the other pics are great and that one is just not representative of the beauty at all, thank you for the helpful details you provided, appreciate it. WikiAccumen (talk) 08:23, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]