Talk:Chest pain
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Interesting paper
[edit]Woo KM, Schneider JI (2009). "High-risk chief complaints I: chest pain--the big three". Emerg. Med. Clin. North Am. 27 (4): 685–712, x. doi:10.1016/j.emc.2009.07.007. PMID 19932401. {{cite journal}}
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ignored (help) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:08, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
also "Value and limitations of chest pain history in the evaluation of patients with suspected acute coronary syndromes." JAMA. 2005 Nov 23;294(20):2623-9. Swap CJ, Nagurney JT. PMID 16304077 Michaelturken (talk) 23:47, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
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Hello everyone! WikiProject Medicine student here.
[edit]I am currently a 4th year medical student taking a Wikiproject course, a course designed to enhance medical pages on Wikipedia through the WikiMed project. I hope to improve upon this article over the next four weeks and beyond. I believe this page is of vital importance to the field of medicine, and to the encyclopedia of knowledge on Wikipedia. Chest pain comes up in every facet of medicine, and can be extremely concerning for many patients. If one googles "chest pain", this page appears upon the first set of results. The article has been graded in the past as a "Start" article because of lack of detail and references. My aim is to improve upon the level of detail provided on this page using high quality resources from medical databases. Several similar "symptom" pages on Wikipedia have been graded at C or above, with one in particular being given a grade of "GA". The page here, Low Back Pain, is an example of the type of quality I'm going to be aiming for over the next couple of weeks. I am going to be modeling this page off of this one and a few others (Abdominal pain, Back pain, Headache).
Section by section I hope to improve:
Introduction: Expanded with more background on chest pain. None of the current text has any sources attributed to it from what I can tell. Provide more detail about the epidemiology of chest pain, what symptoms expect with chest pain, and warning signs that signal physicians. The Low back pain article is a good example of what I hope to build towards because it provides an overview of the rest of the article without going into extreme detail on each subject.
Signs and Symptoms: I plan on adding a new section describing the different types of chest pain often seen by physicians, what these mean for the diagnostic process, and associated signs that can accompany these symptoms.
Differential Diagnosis/Causes: I hope to improve upon this section. Although it seems very comprehensive, it appears as if most of this was taken from a website called "DiagnosisPro", which I am unsure if it is accurate or able to be sourced. I will confer with my professor and others on this topic. This section will be difficult to manage because chest pain is a very common and widespread complaint of many diseases.
Diagnostic Approach: This section is already fairly detailed, however much of it is unsourced. Using different medical textbooks, I want to provide a sourced overview of the diagnostic guidelines to chest pain, what tests are routinely ordered and why, and an expansion upon the warning signs mentioned earlier. Hopefully much of this current section will remain the same, but with some more detail and sources.
Management: Currently this section focuses on management of acute coronary syndrome and is well sourced in that regard. However, other causes of chest pain that are touched on earlier are not given a portion of this management section. Hopefully I can add in basic management for the most common causes of chest pain, with a breakdown of each one. This will also be linked out to other Wikipedia pages that touch on these subjects.
Epidemiology: This section can be expanded greatly. I want to attempt to provide sourced epidemiological data on gender differences, regional differences, admission rates, morbidity/mortality rates, and other epidemiological data that I can find.
Overall I'd love for anyone who is looking at this page to help! I have seen a few minor changes over the past few years and want to know what direction people think this page should go. I think with its high view count, standing on search engines, and overall importance to the field of medicine that this page could use a bit of an upgrade. I really don't want to step on anyone's toes here so any suggestion would be greatly appreciated! Thanks everyone!
Ksmcnally (talk) 20:21, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Sounds good and welcome. I have provided some advice on your talk page. Please make sure to review it. And let me know if you have any questions. Also please pass along to your teacher and classmates. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:37, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Peer Review -- Overall I think you did a great job in making the article easier to read and based more on medical and clinical consensus. You followed your plan and completed most of your objectives! Some suggestions for minor edits are listed below.
- 1. Make sure to review the article and change all "patients" to "person/people" as I believe that it is a Wikimed suggestion due to the reader audience being regular people and not other healthcare professionals.
- 2. In the differential section, underneath ACS- it may be beneficial to link out "vagus nerve" and "left ventricle" or to include a diagram with the anatomy just to make it more clear for laypeople.
- 3. Check article for spelling errors: Example- Fatique (not fatigue) in the MVP section. Also, some words are in the British English version instead of American English- which may not matter. Examples: Characterised vs. Characterized, and dyspnea vs. dyspnoea.
- Other than these small things, again I think you did a great job! Nspitzer16 (talk) 15:08, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: WikiMed UTSW
[edit]This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 18 November 2024 and 13 December 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Apricot2024 (article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Apricot2024 (talk) 19:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC) Here is my work plan:
- Peer review:
- Strengths -
- Great job with citations! They were all from large reviews, textbooks, handbooks, and so on, fitting with Wikipedia guidelines.
- I think the amount of detail in the sections you wrote, as far as I could see in your sandbox, is fitting to prior examples of differential diagnoses. The tone is neutral and objective. I look forward to seeing how you’ll flesh out the other portions of the differential!
- Areas of improvement:
- I would consider editing existing material for clarity and grammar. I think keeping the format and detail for each differential would be helpful, but I can see how this is a huge task that’ll probably expand beyond this course.
- There are also many missing citations for existing paragraphs (e.g., prinzmetal’s angina, cocaine use, aortic stenosis, and so on).
- Overall impressions: Strong work! You tackled such a broad and important subject. I can only imagine that it’s tough working on the sheer volume of “chest pain,” but I think this is a great start to flesh out the differential.
- Readability: your work is very readable, and I think it’d be accessible to the general audience. I appreciate your definitions for clarity such as adding “(pleuritic chest pain)” for pleurisy.
- Flow: Great! Short and sweet paragraphs for each differential.
- Specific suggestions -- I'll reach out to you with a doc of suggestions! Digitiminimi99 (talk) 22:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Course Day 1 (Monday 11/18)
- reviewed Wikiproject Medicine’s website
- began brainstorming ideas for article
Course Day 2
- completed all required Wiki Ed training modules
- assigned myself to article for class
- designed which sections of the article to edit
Class Teams Meeting (11/25)
- Find 3 references of textbooks and systematic reviews
Class Teams Meeting(12/2)
- Work on differential diagnoses (specifically the cardio and respiratory sections)
- Check prior work and ensure work comes from unbiased, neutral sources
- Check old citations to ensure proper formatting
Class Teams Meeting (12/8)
- Complete differential diagnoses (specifically GI, chest wall, and 'others')
- Confirm all facts are appropriately cited
Work in Progress (12/10)
- Finish psych portion of differential
- Confirm that all respective viewpoints are adequately represented
- Check article for medical jargon
Wrap Up (12/12)
- Confirm final edits