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December 19

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The result of the discussion was delete as unused Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:00, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Pre-read (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused; the proposal to go around using it seems to have died a while ago. -- Beland (talk) 23:25, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Iranian FIFA Futsal World Championship navboxes

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The result of the discussion was delete all as non-championship squads per precedent. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 09:11, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Iran Squad 2000 FIFA Futsal World Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Iran Squad 2004 FIFA Futsal World Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Iran Squad 2008 FIFA Futsal World Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Iran Squad 2012 FIFA Futsal World Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

non-notable squad. Frietjes (talk) 20:05, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Iran Squad 1992 FIFA Futsal World Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

4th place squad. Frietjes (talk) 20:04, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Iran Squad 2014 AFC Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

2nd place squad. Frietjes (talk) 20:02, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Iran Squad 2012 AFC Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

3rd place squad. Frietjes (talk) 20:01, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete as a navbox that doesn't nav Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:13, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:TopGolf Locations (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Related to TopGolf article, this template seems to be a precursor to creating lots more TopGolf articles. Currently the links are geographical. While 1 page on TopGolf seems ok (given that it's a pretty specific topic), having a multitude of them smacks of advertising. Adding locations could readily be achieved by extending the current article. Nigej (talk) 13:44, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was mark all historical Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 10:01, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:RFC boilerplate 1 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:RFC boilerplate 2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:RfCsubst (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:RfC2subst (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct is now shut down. These templates were substitution templates and are not transcluded anywhere (except for the wrapper templates also nominated that merely add "subst" to the others). There should be no harm in deleting these Oiyarbepsy (talk) 20:37, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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The result of the discussion was delete Infobox university chancellor, after orphaning it by substituting it. Since this is a wrapper for Infobox officeholder in the first place, there is nothing to merge, and the conversion is complete by substitution. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 20:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox university chancellor (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox officeholder (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox university chancellor with Template:Infobox officeholder.
The chancellor box was recently made a wrapper for the officeholder box, but apparently we have to have a merger debate before it can be Subst: and redirected. This should be done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:58, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Does the merger tag really need to be on Infobox officerholder, or perhaps more specifically, does it have to appear on every page that has it transcluded? It's affecting almost 85,000 articles. Number 57 22:48, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • If it was not on the template, people would complain. It could be noincluded, but that is supposed to be for substituted templates only, according to Twinkle, so we may need to develop some consensus to do that. I would support noincluding in this case. —PC-XT+ 23:29, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't know anything about templates, but I arrived here via a page for a major corporate CEO whose bio template is of the "officeholder" variety. Unless this CEO is an aberration, this template might be in too wide of use for the proposed merge. It obviously doesn't make sense to have a "university chancellor" template in use on corporate CEO pages. - Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 23:17, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh, okay. Thanks. - Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 00:35, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. There is consensus that there is a lot of overlap between these two templates, but some parameters, specifically ethnicity, rivals and allies, are found to be undesirable to have in a general organization infobox, and at the same time are sufficiently useful for a criminal organisation infobox not to want to lose them by a significant proportion of the people in this discussion. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 20:49, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox criminal organization (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (423 transclusions)
Template:Infobox organization (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (16,086 transclusions)

Propose merging Template:Infobox criminal organization with Template:Infobox organization.
Some people felt the recent TfD discussion about the criminal org template should have been a merger proposal; so here it is.

The relevant parameters are |named after=, |founding_location=, |ethnicity= and |rivals=, all of which have their place for non-criminal organisations (e.g. Oxfam, named after Oxford Famine relief, founded in Oxford, England). For |years_active= we should use the more generic template's |formation= & |extinction=. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:53, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is annoying.
Can we stop "The template Infobox organization is being considered for merging." from appearing at the top of each and every page --there are over 16,000 of them! -- that uses the target "infobox organization" infobox?
I think it suffices for it to appear on the criminal org infobox pages (at most). Desire to generate conversation on these 400-odd pages proposed to be changed doesn't warrant marring the tops of 16,000 other pages. --Epeefleche (talk) 22:31, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is annoying, but as I said in the above discussion, we are attempting to follow appropriate procedure. (You can see why in the previous discussions.) This is one of the questions about TfD process that appears hard to answer. —PC-XT+ 23:39, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There must be a way to remove that notice. Ask the tech boffins. Cite IAR. Anything. This is absurd. Can we at least stick it under the infobox? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:05, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Bad TfD quality. -DePiep (talk) 23:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Whether those 16000 should be notified is a point. But whether this deserves a merge-TfD: absolutely. Because: the proposal implies a change of the target template. That can not be enforced from a TfD outcome without consulting that template ('s followers). On top of this, the nom only grudgingly seems to admit that a parameter-issue overview should be included in the proposal (the earlier TfD in this failed). -DePiep (talk) 23:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - Looks like the attributes on the criminal organization template are well-used. Many attributes on each template don't apply to the other type, so it seems easier for editors to keep them separate for now. -- Beland (talk) 23:59, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Also, we have a separate Template:Infobox company which is probably more similar to the generic organization template, though the company template is much more heavily used than the criminal organization one. -- Beland (talk) 00:04, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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