User talk:IslaySolomon: Difference between revisions

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Hello, IslaySolomon, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Please review WP:CSD before tagging articles with {{db-reason}}. As you can see, advertising is NOT a criterion; WP:PROD might be a better process in those cases. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, thanks. --IslaySolomon 22:00, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But congratulations, you caught an absolutely yucky yucky spammer right in their tracks :-) Now I am trying to clear up some of the mess they have left in their wake - promotional link spamming in external links sections of otherwise useful articles, daft promotional articles and even more ridiculous spam categories. :-( And what is worse they can not be banned for this, just warned! In future, if you find one of these spammers, could you have a look at WP:SPAM? There are various spam warning messages you can place on a user's talk page, starting with number 1 then working up in severity until they get blocked. The earlier we can get first warning in, the faster we can get the spamming to stop. It's a real mess to clean up unfortunately! TheGrappler 05:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks I appreciate that, I was going on WP:IAR in that case, for an OBVIOUS advertisement. Hopefully the admins won't wait the 5 days to remove it. Wildthing61476 17:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see that Seungwoo marked your page as a CSD. I've removed the tags, as your page was listed in CSD. I have placed a warning on Seungwoo's talk page for vandalism of your user page, and if you have any further problems with this user or any other users in future please do contact me. --Wisden17 22:55, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's very good of you. --IslaySolomon 22:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You marked Arsen Productions as a copyvio, which was entirely correct. I wanted to let you know that I rewrote the article to a neutral point of view and so that it would no longer be a copyvio. Please take a look at Arsen Productions and make any further changes that you consider appropriate. --TruthbringerToronto 16:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant, thanks. --IslaySolomon 16:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know about the mistake i made, it has now been changed. --Joshuarooney2006 09:06, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Two things, although I don't agree that that article should have space on wiki, the prod will undoubtedly not make it full term. That brings me to the second thing; YTMND which is where that is hosted is not a private website, but actually a very large forum (which is why a {{prod}} won't make it full term.) Viridae^Talk 02:31, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And you suggesting that YTMND is so large that other members will shout down the proposed deletion out of sympathy? The article makes no claims of notability whatsoever. Basically it says "Look, we've made a site about scientology. It appears on google. Scientologists have sued other sites, perhaps they'll sue ours." By that logic I could critise scientology on my website and then be imediately entitled to write a wikipedia article about it. If there were a speedy delete tag covering non-notable websites, I would have used it. --IslaySolomon 02:41, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a look at the guidlines covering WP:PROD if a proposed deletion is contested, by any editor (including the articles main contributor) the tag can not be re-added. You may then choose to take it to WP:AFD - where I am sure it will probobly be deleted. However my original point was that its is probobly futile to add a {{prod}} tag to an article related to something as large as YTMND because of its large userbase - it is highly likely that the prod will be removed. Viridae^Talk 03:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, you were right, the {{prod}} was removed almost immediately. I've followed the procedure from WP:AFD like you suggested. --IslaySolomon 04:55, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No probs. Viridae^Talk 05:26, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you seriously suggesting that "They started out as a covers/interpretations band but developed in the early 90's into one of the finest SKA bands of all time" is an assertion of notability? It sounds a lot more like an opinion to me. --IslaySolomon 23:13, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's correct. CSD A7 only applies when no assertion of notability is made in the article. "[O]ne of the finest ska bands of all time" is an assertion of notability. Cheers, JYolkowski // talk 00:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But "one of the finest ska bands of all time" is totally subjective. It's an opinion of notability. An assertion of notability would consist of facts, for example: "Ska Monthly magazine named Skippy The Fridge one of their all-time most influential ska bands" or "STF's first single reached number 5 in the charts". Moreover, Wikipedia:Notability (music) contains guidelines on what makes a music ensemble notable and the article made no mention of Skippy meeting any of them. --IslaySolomon 00:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quoting from A7, it states: "...does not assert the importance or significance of its subject. If the assertion is disputed or controversial, it should be taken to AFD instead." (emphasis mine). For the purpose of this criterion, it doesn't matter whether the assertion is true or false, just whether it has been made. If you believe the assertion to be untrue or unverifiable, you should take it to AFD (which has already been done in this case). Thanks, JYolkowski // talk 00:42, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and WP:MUSIC has no bearing on CSDs, just at AfD. JYolkowski // talk 00:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. That does make sense. My only problem with this is that an article that reads:

"X are a rock band formed by three teenaged friends. They rehearse occasionally in a garage. They once played at a battle of the bands at their high school and lost. They have a myspace site with over 20 friends. They are the most significant rock act to have ever lived."

would have to debated in AfD.

Anyhow, I did put Skippy up for AfD and it was deleted almost immediately, so I suppose the system works. I'll be more discerning in which delete tag I use in the future. Thanks for explaining that for me. --IslaySolomon 01:00, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• • Pardon me for wandering in here, but AFAIAC, a page like that could still be speedied under nonsense, in spite of what our pushy uncle says. Too bad there isn't a tag for very, very stupid. :) --DarkAudit 19:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

why not just delete the whole website? then we wont have to waste our time!! hey! what a concept!! lets delete lots of writing!!! wooopeee!!!! sweet!!!! delete history!!! delete everything!!!! no explanation!!!!! just deletion!!!! this is fun!!! awesome!!!! look mom NO HANDS!!! yeah cuz they're been DELETED!!!! great!!! wonderful!!! happy happy joy joy!!!!! delete this now!!!! DELETE ME DELETE ME DELETEMEDELETEMEDELETEMEDELETEMEDELEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET LEET

NO KIDDING - but Vandalism???? i think its vandalism that a page (A RESOURCE) which was on this website now gone!! with no explaination. That is Vandalism. Xsxex 19:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me? --IslaySolomon 19:39, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

no dont excuse you, you havent done anything.. .excuse the people who deleted the whole country's list of music by states... excuse them Xsxex 19:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've also been slapped by UncleG for what he deems an 'abuse' of the word 'nonsense'. It seems to be a particular pet peeve of his. --DarkAudit 19:52, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you had a problem with an admin at this AfD. If you have a problem with an admin it is important to take it up with them in a civil manor. If you feel you must take the matter further you may want to post it at WP:AN. But please avoid mentioning 'bad' users in unrelated areas of wikipedia though please. Thanks.--Andeh 19:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Apologies. I definately went too far there. However it is true that the admin in question has been extremely curt to users who've labeled articles of that level of coherence "patent nonsense" (see above). --IslaySolomon 20:07, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if you would revist the article and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eccles College. I have removed the vandalism in the article and you may or may not wish to revise your opinion. I am passing this message to all who gave an opinion prior to my removal of the vandalism, both keep and delete. Fiddle Faddle 15:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When I am an administrator, I WILL BLOCK YOU FOR BEING SUCH A DOPE. My article was NIFTY GOOD SALAD. --MarkusFarkus 02:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is my page, Patrick Collins (Marxist), satisfactory upon further review? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ptcollins (talk • contribs) 08:44, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My adding the speedy deletion tag to this article will bring it to the attention of an administrator who will consider any comments left on the talk page, before making the final decision as to whether or not to delete the article. -- IslaySolomon 08:50, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarification of this. Matthuxtable 12:26, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not quite sure why the two articles I wrote on the Westchester Jazz Orchestra, and a member, Joey Berkley got deleted. Can you please clarify?

-Dwslassls