Talk:Arjun Singh (Congress politician): Difference between revisions

There is specifically one remark that is obviously POV, but I also believe that the whole second paragraph may be POV. Specifically,

He works entirely on votebank politics. Most of his actions have caused communal disharmony in India. He is one of those who should be dispensed with for the better future of India.

is obviously POV. The whole paragraph above that may also be POV, was there "a lot of controversy"? I don't know about Indian politics, so I can't really judge this issue. Aggelophoros 22:44, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it drew a lot of controversy. Its the news every other day and proof of the extreme reaction is this page's history itself. See how many times I have reverted inflammatory comments from this article. You managed to catch this before I can correct. I have removed the last edit however I am leaving the POV section template till I can rewrite it to POV free state. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:45, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done it. Removing POV bits from the intro also. Leaving a mention of the Churhat lottery scandal, I think, but mentioning that it was just an allegation. Hornplease 07:01, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the new quota system which is planned by the HRD ministry of india (arjun singh) by making the 104th amendment to the constitution of india, which makes the provision to increase the number of reserved seats in educational institutions (including IIM,IIT) from 22.5% to 49.5% is unjust to the society and the general public.

the educational institutions should be spared from such a provision. top educational institutions would suffer badly if this bill comes to effect. in the likes of IIM and IIT which are premier institutes in India such quota is unjust. it leaves the General Category students very few options one of which is to leave the country and go abroad for education and jobs.

the working of this quota system is also very unique, the people belonging to SC,st, obc who already have a quota if do well they are considered in the general quota which shrinks the number of seats for the general people. eg. if there are 100 seats out of which 50 is reserved in IIM, then if a person from the sc,st background does well in the qualification test then he will not be in the list of reserved seats but he will be in the general category. that means that the number of seats for general will be much less then the 50% of the total.

considering India has such a huge population and the population of general people is a majority then why there should be only 50% seats to them. and the other 50% which is reserved for the not so privileged never reaches the true people to whom it belongs. rather then quota why not the govt spend a little and do something about the under-privileged classes at the village level, those are the people for whom this kind of bills are framed but they don't get any benefit. its the rich very much privileged sc,st, and OBCs who get the benefits, who even without the benefit will do very well. nothing has changed for 99% of backward castes from the year 1947.

again quota is necessary to a certain extent, the quota in govt. institutions is neccesary because they give the opportunity to the less privileged classes. and as general category is not that less privileged they can go and apply in private institution. but if there are quotas in private institutions too then where people from the general category will go. every year a large no. of student pass out from Delhi schools, but the seats in Delhi in colleges is just around 22000 for the general, the demand is much higher.

The way Ambuj Saxena is removing any and every article edit that shows the HRD minister in a poor light makes me wonder if the editor himself is adherent to the concept of NPOV.

I agree that derogatory and abusive language is not the way to go in Wikipedia. But genuine criticism should not be edited just for the need of portraying the minister as an angel. Let us accept the fact that Arjun Singh is no Messiah for the backward classes; he stated it very poignantly in media that he played the current political master-stroke to further the interests of Congress party.

So dear Ambuj, unless you have a vested interest in portraying him as an angel, allow for facts other than the sugary introduction highlighting his one time felicitation as an outstanding parliamentarian.

P.S.: We IITians from Delhi don't feel he is competent. Join us in our protest!