Wikipedia talk:Huggle/Feedback/Archive 14: Difference between revisions

Vandals must be having a field day Calmer Waters 02:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Yea I'm having that problem right now too. Tommy (msg) 02:40, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. Vandals are loving it, I'm sure. Time to do some good old fashioned recent changes patrolling I guess. Reach Out to the Truth 03:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Bad timing to, as I was planning to start using Huggle again too. Maybe someone can fix the source code? It is open-source, so maybe someone could fix it. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 06:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I am very sad right now! Blue Rasberry 13:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Cheer up, at least we got AVBOT and ClueBot! --Tommy (msg) 14:24, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

This is fixed in the current version. As the automatic update check only runs after a successful login, you will need to download the current version. Gurch (talk) 16:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for quick fix. Working just fine again.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 19:18, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I want to add my thanks, Gurch. Tiderolls 23:05, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that, was beginning to worry when I couldn't log in, Cluebot and AVBot must've been run off their feet! --5 albert square (talk) 01:46, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Good job I noticed this thread! Was starting to wonder what was happening... Working fine again :) Orphan Wiki 12:47, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

The new version worked for me yesterday, however I just tried logging in and received the "unable to log in" message again. - Stillwaterising (talk) 08:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

This is fixed in the current version. As the automatic update check only runs after a successful login, you will need to download the current version. Gurch (talk) 10:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Just so everybody is clear, there's a new version released this morning, v0.9.4. A manual upgrade is required. - Stillwaterising (talk) 12:28, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Why does Huggle send warnings to talkpages when it hasn't reverted (another user did it early)? emijrp (talk) 21:11, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

It shouldn't do. Possibly the revert failed due to an abuse filter or something dumb like that. Gurch (talk) 13:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

As far as I can see Huggle isn't supported on Wikimedia Commons as of commons:Commons:Huggle. What is missing getting it up and running there? Nsaa (talk) 21:45, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Some effort is missing :P *added to the list of to do* ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 16:32, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Any news on making Huggle Commons-friendly? Mikemoral♪�� 03:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello all, on some pages it's mentioned that Huggle is in a test fase on nl.wikipedia.org, at the moment for sysops only. However, I really don't know how to test it, as it's not possible in the first screen to select nl.wikipedia.org. Does anybody know how I could manage to get it working? Thanks, Lolsimon (talk) 20:55, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

You will more than likely have to talk to the admins over there to see if they think it should be open to rollbackers. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 16:32, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

How do you mean? At nl.wp we don't have rollbackers. I'm a sysop, but I don't know how to use it, as I can't choose it at start-up. Lolsimon (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

I can select nl.wikipedia just fine. Is it listed for you? If not, you may want to consider downloading the latest edition. As far as rollbackers go, on en.wp the rollback bit was made grantable, so non-sysops can use huggle. Not sure if that applies to other wikis as well. Throwaway85 (talk) 05:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Strange, it (nl.wikipedia) is really not listed here. I'm using the newest version (huggle 0.9.2). Only bg, de, en, es, no, pt, ru, simple and test are listed. When I take a look in the source code, I don't see it listened: see here. Lolsimon (talk) 22:44, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

In the directory where you run the Huggle executable, you should find a folder named "Config". In that folder, you should find a file named "config.txt". In that file, you should find (or place) the following:

projects:
    bg.wikipedia;http://bg.wikipedia.org/,
    ca.wikipedia;http://ca.wikipedia.org/,
    de.wikipedia;http://de.wikipedia.org/,
    en.wikipedia;http://en.wikipedia.org/,
    es.wikipedia;http://es.wikipedia.org/,
    ko.wikipedia;http://ko.wikipedia.org/,
    nl.wikipedia;http://nl.wikipedia.org/,
    no.wikipedia;http://no.wikipedia.org/,
    pt.wikipedia;http://pt.wikipedia.org/,
    ru.wikipedia;http://ru.wikipedia.org/,
    te.wikipedia;http://te.wikipedia.org/,
    vi.wikipedia;http://vi.wikipedia.org/,
    simple.wikipedia;http://simple.wikipedia.org/,
    test wiki;http://test.wikipedia.org/,

Hope that helps!   — Jeff G. ツ 18:37, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Lolsimon (talk) 23:05, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I recently experienced a crash while using huggle. I was skipping through edits, and noticing an unusual lag in performance. When I went to revert, it instead reverted the edit on the article I had just skipped. I attempted to stop the revert, and the entire program crashed. Upon opening the task manager, I noticed huggle was consuming 1.5 Gb of memory. I'm afraid there's not much more I can add. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask. Thanks, Throwaway85 (talk) 08:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Woo for memory leaks :s ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 16:32, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Lots of them. It appears to be a persistent problem. The pattern appears the same: I'll be using it, everything is fine. Starts to lag, no real problem. Takes a while to load new pages, fine. Then I will go to revert something and it will revert the wrong page. Attempting to stop it causes a crash, although I think that would happen anyway. Every time it crashes, it's got about 1.5 gigs of physical memory allocated to it. FWIW, I'm running win7 64 bit, 2 gigs of ram on a 2 gig core 2 duo. Throwaway85 (talk) 11:58, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

The question is, where are they all :P ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 16:39, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I've managed to narrow that down too. The problem seems to be confined to the "Cancel all pending actions" button. Every time I've hit that while Huggle was reverting, it crashed. Hopefully that's enough info to track it down. Throwaway85 (talk) 05:32, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I too have experienced this problem. Whenever I tried to either a. stop pending action or b. revert something that is bending, it crashed completely. I am using Windows 7 Home Premium-64 bit, 4 gigs ram, 2.13 Ghz Core 2 Duo P7450. --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 07:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I also am having this issue, whenever I click "cancel pending actions" or the self-undoing button, it crashes. This actually just happened again, when I accidentally started reverting a good edit, but thankfully another user took care of it. Lozeldafan (talk) 21:57, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

I have been gone for about a year now, I came back and found my name on this list...What does it mean? Just curious, thanks Sirkad_talk^sign 16:00, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

From what I understand, Huggle whitelists users with edit counts above 500, indicating that they aren't run-of-the-mill vandals and that Huggle clients can safely ignore their edits when parsing Recent Changes. --King Öomie 16:13, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

It serves as a list of contributors with more than 500 contributions, because MediaWiki lacks any way to obtain such a list. This is not intended as a suggestion or endorsement of the concept that a certain number of contributions is required in order for a contributor to be considered trustworthy, and certainly not that that number is 500; the reason for this choice is that the list would otherwise be too big. Gurch (talk) 16:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah got it, thanks guys. Sirkad_talk^sign 19:37, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Can this be on the front of this page too? I have no idea what it means without coming to the talk page.— JediRogue (talk) 08:09, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

2 users have informed me that their reports on the WP:AIAV page have been overwritten by the software. JovianEye (talk) 19:14, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Any diffs we can look at? ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 20:01, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

This discussion on my talk page should give you more details! --JovianEye (talk) 14:58, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

“Did not revert … Invalid token.”

Any ideas … ? — SpikeToronto 02:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Token for the page reference is either missing, invalid, or generally broken. If it doesnt work, try again. KiraChinmoku _{(T, ¤)} 10:27, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I keep trying to set it to 1 minute, but after clicking the OK button.. it isn't set to 1. If I go back to the "Queues" window, it's set at 10 again! I've tried setting it to 12 for example, and it still goes back to 10! Rarely the setting will actually stay at 1, but it returns to 10 if I change any other setting. Am I doing something really obviously wrong? –  MissAlyx  talk  14:26, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

No, Huggle is just badly coded. Gurch (talk) 17:34, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

That was what I suspected. –  MissAlyx  talk  18:53, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, apparently, I didn't see this very identical post until after I posted mine. I guess we're not the only ones who discovered this... Schfifty3 18:57, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback/Archive_13#Behavior_with_5.2C000_edits_in_queue for a "fix"  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm trying to make it so that the filtered edits in my queue are removed after one minute (has happened in previous versions). However, whenever I click "OK" after saving my changes, the minutes reset to 10 minutes. Does anyone know why this is happening? I don't want my queues to overload! :-) Schfifty3 18:55, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

It is just badly coded. Anyway, your queues won't "overload", they'll just keep growing until they reach 5000 items, at which point older items will be bumped off the end. Gurch (talk) 22:34, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Wait, is the 5000-item cue the reason for the memory sinks? That seems unnecessarily large. Throwaway85 (talk) 06:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I just noticed on Wikipedia:Huggle/Config that the default revert summary is almost exactly the same as the manual revert summary. This change was done by Baseball1015 (talk · contribs), who probably went bold and changed them without consensus. I don't particularly agree with these new changes because it looks too confusing. Also, with these new changes, the only way to tell whether the edit was done by Huggle is by the last part - (HG). I am going to revert these changes for now and leave it until a discussion/consensus has formed. Feel free to leave your comments here! Thanks, Schfifty3 23:28, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Is the last part not enough? The problem I have with the changes is making the summary longer for no good reason. Gurch (talk) 08:24, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

HOw to change the default summary? --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 08:10, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

To Gurch - What I meant was basically this appearance: Reverted edits by XXXXX (talk) to last version by YYYYY (HG). The user changed it to this before I reverted it to the current summary. Schfifty3 17:17, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Why is HG having a hard time finding the page creator when I tag something as SD? CTJF83 chat 19:38, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Maybe they're hiding. Or perhaps it just sucks. Gurch (talk) 11:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the "helpful" reply. CTJF83 chat 20:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

I would like a nicer more descriptive summary when I click on the revert button. THe current wording doesn't state anything about vandalism and huggle. First, I would like to ask that the default summary should be improved. Secondly, I would like to know how to make make my custom summary as the default everytime I press the big red revert vandalism button (Removing vandalism using Huggle Anti-Vandal tool. False positive? Please assume good faith and kindly tell this user about it. Thanks!)? --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 20:28, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

You are not a bot, you are a human. If you're making mistakes often enough that you need a "what to do if there's a false positive" line in your edit summaries, then you should be taking more care. Gurch (talk) 11:17, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Just in case I make one when reverting vandalism with Huggle... Not that I do often. It's like: I've undid your edits due to vandalism. If not happy, feel feel to drop me a message. --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 16:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Even this edit summary by Twinkle seem better Reverted 1 edit by 91.73.80.70 identified as vandalism to last revision by Epeefleche. --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 06:46, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

How is that better? The only difference is it calls the edit vandalism; since people also use Huggle to remove test edits, spam, and no end of other things, that would be misleading. Gurch (talk) 07:09, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

If you notice if I select the down arrow on the big red triangle, I am able to select whether the edits are test, spam, vandalism, etc. THerefore, I don't think the edit summary should be a generic one. --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 19:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

The "big red triangle" is the warning button, not the revert button. The warnings already have specific edit summaries. One would assume that if you're warning someone for something. you've already reverted it, so knowing after the fact what you identified it as doesn't help. A case could be made for specific summaries on the combined revert/warn function, but I still don't think the minimal value in that outweighs the problems caused by people giving the wrong reason for reverting something. There's a reason MediaWiki's default summary doesn't specify a reason, which applies equally to Huggle. Gurch (talk) 06:32, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello, i have been unable to revert WP:VANDALISM with WP:HUGGLE because everytime i run Huggle it says Huggle has encountered a problem and it needs to close. I dont know whats wrong with it. So until, the bug is fixed i guess im going to have to fight Vandalism with WP:TWINKLE--Written by GeneralCheese 20:42, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

How about delete the Huggle program file you have and redownload a freshcopy from the website? --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 22:04, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Ive tried that, still not working.--Written by GeneralCheese 02:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Not sure why Gurch reverted my edit, although I assume it had something to do with my poor attempt at humour. At any rate, I'm having the same problem. Huggle is now crashing after, at most, 5 minutes of use, rendering it unusable. Windows7 64bit, 2 gig core 2 duo, fwiw. Throwaway85 (talk) 19:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

I could not get Huggle to run for very long with Windows7, and as there was a couple of other programs that failed to run that I wanted to keep, I've gone back to XPpro for the forseeable future.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:57, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Since some days, when I try to connect, I get the following error: "URI no válido: se esperaba un puerto porque hay presentes dos puntos (':') pero el puerto no se pudo analizar" ("Invalid URI: port was expected because there are two points (':') present but the port could not analyze.")

What can I do? Greetings. --Banfield - Amenazas aquí 17:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Try changing huggle to run / work off a different port if you can. KiraChinmoku _{(T, ¤)} 10:29, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Different steps to replicate than issue above. Huggle crashes fairly constantly when trying to revert+warn an edit from a user's history bar that is not their latest. I suspect some of the edits may have been previously reverted, and this is what causes the problem, but I couldn't say for certain. As above, win7 pro 64, POS Dell. I just deleted and redownloaded the program file, still crashing. This one does not appear to be tied to performance or memory usage, as the above one does. Let me know if there's any other info I can provide. Throwaway85 (talk) 11:25, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I think that if there are multiple edits in a row on a page by the same user, Huggle should show them as a group instead of just one to the other. What do you think? P Carn (talk) 01:29, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

To do this, every time you wanted to view a diff Huggle would have to fetch the page history first, in order to see which revisions to include. This would make things much slower. And what would happen when you want to revert some, but not all of those revisions? Gurch (talk) 02:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi, When will the test on the Dutch Wikipedia end? Who's leading the test? When will 'normal' users be able to use Huggle at WP-nl? Kind regards, Timk70 (talk) 17:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi Timk, there are currently some issues that make the usage of Huggle a bit complicated. At the moment vandalism patrolling with huggle isn't working fine at nl.wp. Lolsimon (talk) 23:05, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Lately, whenever i login to HG, it gives this message :" -- Unable to connect to IRC recent changes feed. Using slower API queries instead". This happens even when I reconnect. Is the IRC feed down? ManishEarth^{Talk • Stalk} 06:58, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

No, the feed is working. Try connecting to #en.wikipedia on irc.wikimedia.org using an IRC client; if you cannot do that, you are behind a firewall, proxy or some other configuration that is blocking IRC. Gurch (talk) 20:56, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Not sure what Huggle did here, but it shouldn't have overwritten another AIV report. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 19:49, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

It's happening on eswiki too [3] --by Màñü飆¹5 ^talk 21:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I saw that patrolling pages is implemented in Huggle. However, patrolling edits (meta:Help:Patrolled_edit) seems to be not implemented. On some wiki's, such as nl.wikipedia, vandalism patrolling is working with edits patrolling. Is there a simple way to patroll edits with Huggle? If not, it might be a good idea to implement this in a new version of Huggle.. Lolsimon (talk) 23:05, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

It's a lot more difficult to implement than it should be. See MediaWiki bug 17237 for details of why. Gurch (talk) 06:00, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, isn't it possible to implement it in the browserview of Huggle? Lolsimon (talk) 15:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Only to the extent outlined in that bug report. So, patrolling of edits made during the session is possible, but more advanced stuff like patrolling of arbitrary revisions, or checking which of a user's edits are patrolled, is not. This limits the usefulness of a patrolling mechanism in Huggle, as the whole point of Huggle is supposed to be to make recent changes monitoring more efficient. Gurch (talk) 15:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

I use Huggle for the German Wikipedia. The warning, that the user receive, when he makes a nonsense article, is not saved. So when he makes once again a nonsence article, I can't see, he has already a warning. That's very irritating. Could you correct that? Regards, Timk70 (talk) 15:04, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Problem is the deletion notification given to users on en.wikipedia is not considered a warning, and there would be complaints if it was. At some point things will have to be rewritten to allow different treatment of the same function on en.wikipedia and de.wikipedia. Gurch (talk) 15:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

[4] [5] In both cases there are 2 consecutive edits I get warned about this by huggle and order it to revert but meanwhile another user reverts but huggle continues and reverts the last of the 2 original edits and the reversion. --Egmontaz♤ ^talk 16:10, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Are you selecting, or has Huggle selected, an intermediate revision in the series of consecutive revisions by the same user, and is Huggle's warning message along the lines of "This will revert to an earlier revision by <name of vandal>"? If so, Huggle is doing as asked -- the behaviour of reverting all consecutive revisions by the same user only applies when rollback can be used to do so, and once someone else has edited the page that is no longer the case, so you will have to manually select the first of the vandal's contributions and then revert to that -- or if, as in this case, the edit that is interrupting you is a revert anyway, simply do nothing (or 'Cancel' when you get the warning message), as the bad revisions have already been reverted. Gurch (talk) 18:25, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Well I really don't remember so I may not be helpful. The case is probably that the message was "This will revert to an earlier revision by <name of vandal>" and I misread it without giving attention because I found out that I had removed the option to get warned for the case of someone having consecutive edit. Usually when someone else reverts first I get the message "Are you sure you want to revert whitelist user <X>" or something like that, but in this case Huggle has already shown the newest edition of the page on screen. Anyway. Thank you for answering and sorry for wasting your time. Regards. --Egmontaz♤ ^talk 19:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Bots have their talk pages #redirected to their owner's talk page. Huggle should follow the #redirect before leaving a message, for examples see: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WildBot&curid=25358825&action=history Josh Parris 00:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Why are you sending bots warning messages in the first place? Gurch (talk) 11:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

A very good question. Perhaps no messages ought to be left for bots? Josh Parris 11:38, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Please stop the reordering in edits like this one. Thanks!   — Jeff G. ツ 02:18, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I've tried to fix that before, nothing I try seems to work. Either it's conflicting locale settings on different users' computers using different sort orders, or the default sort order isn't actually stable in the first place. At some point it might have to be completely rewritten to do an item-by-item comparison and only make an edit if the items differ, that is slow though. Gurch (talk) 11:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I may be barking up the wrong tree... But I see you have TWO Sortlist.vb routines at

1. svn/ branches/ anole/ SortedList.vb
2. svn/ branches/ lite/ SortedList.vb

Now the "lite one has

• n = CInt(Math.Ceiling((b + a) \ 2))

and the other has

• 'CInt rounds .5 to the nearest even interval, but we need to round up

n = CInt(b + a + 0.1) \ 2

So is a "lite" user making one sort and a "normal" user the other?  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

First, nobody should be using the 'lite' version any more, since it doesn't even work. Second, that code has nothing to do with the sort order of the whitelist, it is determining where to insert revisions in the revision queue. Gurch (talk) 12:00, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't expect this to go anywhere, but... Any chance that future versions may include Windows Server OSes? (Of if anyone knows how to get Huggle to work on a Server OS, short of using WinXp on VirtualBox...) I expect that an extremely small number of people (probably only me) edit from Server OSes, so this is not really critical or anything. ^Avicenna_sis @ 08:33, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I was under the impression that Windows Server wasn't hugely different from standard Windows, architecturally speaking. Assuming you have .NET Framework installed, what is the issue? Does it fail to start altogether, or is functionality missing? Gurch (talk) 12:01, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I have the .NET framework. Same version as in on my WinXP machine that runs it fine. On the server, it throws up communication errors. I have put it in my routers DMZ, disabled all firewall/security software, and port-scanned it from another machine within my network and from an external website. All of this shows it should not be an issue. I have encountered similar problems, and usually this means that the program is not able to understand the network configurations on a Domain Controller. ^Avicenna_sis @ 17:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

That might explain it. Do you get an error message out of Huggle before it breaks, or does it just crash? If the former, could you copy the error message here? Gurch (talk) 19:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I get an error message. I am currently at work, so I can't duplicate it now, but I will update when I get home this evening. (Around 0300-0400 UTC) ^Avicenna_sis @ 19:40, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Re-created it on a virtual machine, turns out for some reason my DNS was losing forward lookup zone entries. It works fine on the OS platform. ^Avicenna_sis @ 05:31, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Who can I contact for an issue with the whitelist? -- Brangifer (talk) 03:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

So far you've contacted two places and haven't said what the issue is. Gurch (talk) 13:01, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi, from where does Huggle obtains the template to report to AIV? --by Màñü飆¹5 ^(m†¹5™) 18:27, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't use a template. Gurch (talk) 08:37, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

And what it uses? I need to change something in eswiki default report --by Màñü飆¹5 ^(m†¹5™) 18:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Not really possible at the moment, if I ever get round to working on Huggle then report content will be configurable. Gurch (talk) 20:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. Whenever I try to request page protection (under the page tab) huggle always crashes ("stops working").. It's done this about 5x and it's always after I req page protection. Does this happen to anyone else? Thanks Tommy (msg) 20:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

It does this to me sometimes, too, but I'm able to request page protection most of the time when I request page protection. - Zhang He (talk) 16:37, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

It's been doing this to me too today. I also tried Twinkle and even then requesting page protection was kind of glitchy. As both Twinkle and Huggle are having the problem I'm more inclined to believe that it's something on the page causing this as opposed to the applications --5 albert square (talk) 23:58, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

No, it is Huggle, which sucks. Gurch (talk) 13:35, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Is there a fix planned for it? - Zhang He (talk) 01:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I had no problem logging in with 0.9.3, but 0.9.4 is giving me grief. I gather by the lack of other posts that I'm alone in this and that no one else is having this problem with the latest version? --Rrburke^ekrubrR 23:36, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I copied the newest version into the same folder as the old one along with the existing config folder. I'm not sure if that's why I'm not having trouble or not. - Stillwaterising (talk) 23:51, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

No luck. I can log in to de: with Huggle, oddly enough -- just not en. --Rrburke^ekrubrR 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

With me is it exactly the same. Regards --Jivee Blau (talk) 02:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Currently Wikimedia's MediaWiki deployment is being updated, patched, re-patched, reverted, fixed, broken, and otherwise generally tossed around, hence the two breaking changes that necessitated Huggle changes in the last week. No doubt this is a third. I will look into it when I have time, which unfortunately is not immediately. Gurch (talk) 12:39, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Gurch. Thanks for replying. It was something in my prefs: when I restored the defaults the problem disappeared. When I get a sec I'll re-customize my prefs one item at a time, running Huggle in between each change to isolate the culprit. Rrburke (talk) 16:49, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Luckily, it didn't affect the Helper-Bots this time. - Zhang He (talk) 16:37, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't know what it was: I re-enabled my prefs one-by-one, but the login problem didn't recur. I'd be tempted to say it had nothing to do with my prefs, but I tried using Huggle immediately prior to resetting them and couldn't log in. -- Rrburke (talk) 16:46, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm working at an Italian localization at meta:User:Snowolf/Huggle it. Just dropping a notice. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 04:35, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

I noticed that on the whitelist one automatic edit will place "ABCxyz" under "ABCXYZ" (there are other examples), and the next edit will put "ABCxyz" back on top. Is this supposed to happen and what purpose does it serve? NotAnonymous0 did I err?|Contribs 05:23, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

On my huggle configuration page, there are options which do not appear in Wikipedia:Huggle/Configuration. Is the linked page slightly out of date? NotAnonymous0 did I err?|Contribs 23:48, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

I have rollback rights and have used Huggle many times before but I try to log in this time and receive the error message "Unable to login". Does anyone have any ideas to what is going wrong? Andrewmc123 16:16, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Have you downloaded the most recent version? (0.9.4) See this discussion - it was introduced only a few days ago, so you may need to update. Orphan Wiki 16:33, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes I have downloaded version 0.9.4 but it still doesnt work

Mmmm, that's strange. I can log in, and I can see that others are using it too at the moment. You may want to contact Gurch, unless anyone else has any suggestions? Orphan Wiki 16:55, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I too am facing the same problem for a few days...I keep getting the error "Unable to Login". I am using the latest version (0.9.4) and have used it several times in the past. --JovianEye (talk) 23:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I downloaded v 0.9.4 this morning as a new user but am unable to log in. I have rollback rights and have .NET 3.0. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Jimmy Pitt (talk) 15:52, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I don't know if this is an issue with Huggle (because I heard it could be related to Internet connection speeds and I'm a relative newbie at using the application) but when Huggle starts up, RC feed updates. However it doesn't update as I work, so eventually I have to reopen Huggle to get more changes to look at. My wireless broadband speed is 1.5mbps, so I'm not sure about the nature of the issue. Reconnecting IRC feed just doesn't work, and there aren't any messages at the bottom to say what is wrong. Thanks for your help. Deagle_AP (talk) 12:17, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I like having recent changes removed after 1 minute to avoid clutter, but it always resets to 10 minutes. I think this is new because it was fine in 0.9.2. NotAnonymous0 did I err?|Contribs 18:37, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

I just started using this. Suppose I find a new IP has changed the article on a band to say it is not "Schlock Rock" but "Slurp Metal". I have no idea whether that is just a technical correction that all fans would agree with or an extreme insult and pure vandalism. If I click on the green arrow, does that mean ""Not vandalism - whitelist the editor" or does it mean "I don't know - someone else should decide"? Then I see another edit that is clearly an improvement, maybe correcting a typo or fixing a redlink. I want to say "this is not vandalism". How does it work? Aymatth2 (talk) 23:11, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

The green arrow goes back to the previous page. The blue arrow button next to the Revert and Warn button will skip the edit and move to the next edit in the queue. Other people will still get a chance to see it and act on it if necessary. Reach Out to the Truth 18:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - that is what I was hoping was the answer. (When I said green I meant blue). I did not want to flag edits as "not vandalism" when I have no idea if they are or not. Aymatth2 (talk) 18:45, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Can we somehow get an additional option to report a user based on a violation of username policy? (As opposed to only reporting based on vandalism past 4/4im) Tommy²⁰¹⁰ 23:02, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree. That would be useful. Especially as it isn't a rare occurance... Orphan Wiki 23:03, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

I'd also like the option to report users and fill in more details, similar to twinkle's ability. Tommy²⁰¹⁰ 23:06, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Re-added username reports, they were disabled because they broke a while ago. You already can fill in more details when you report a user, if you use the report button on the toolbar. If you want to be prompted to fill in more details every time a user is reported, rather than it reporting automatically, go to System -> Options and under "Reporting" change the "Auto-report" setting to "Prompt for report". Gurch (talk) 14:26, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Whenever I try to undo an action using the undo-button the program crashes. --MrStalker ^(talk) 16:54, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Join the club :-(. You might want to note above Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback#Crash, and other sections. You are not alone...  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 21:48, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

I am having a problem with Huggle since last week. When I try to log in, the message "Unable to log in" appears. Today I downloaded the 0.9.5 but the problem remains. ThiagoRuiz (talk) 16:03, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Huggle crashes when a user is reverting 2 or more edits at the same time and a more recent edit is reverted before the first reversion is completed. It gets "confused" I guess you'd say. It seems to crash when it says "Warning... (vandalism from user 2)" while still trying to revert the latter vandalism. Tommy²⁰¹⁰ 14:35, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

The IRC RC feed still doesn't seem to work properly for me, even though I can go on #en.wikipedia on irc.wikimedia.org on Chatzilla. So it switches to API queries. However, after a while it generates this error:

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

  at Huggle.Misc.FindString(String Source, String From, String To)
  at Huggle.Processing.ProcessRc(String Result)
  at Huggle.Requests.RcApiRequest.Done()
  at Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone()
  at Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject)

Can anyone explain? Thanks. Deagle_AP (talk) 08:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Whenever I can't access IRC I also get this error after an amount of time. Help would be usefull. Spitfire19 (Talk) 14:30, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

There are some warnings that Twinkle has, such as 3RR, that Huggle doesn't. I think they should be added. Also, on the "Send template message to user" button (one with the blue background and white exclamation mark), there should be an additional opition to link to said page. The way it is now, it just messages the user, but doesn't show them what page they messed up on. - Donald Duck (talk) 00:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

3RR might be a bit too much mission creep for Huggle. It's intended for vandal-fighting, nothing more. 3RR tends to be much more complicated, and issuing warnings for it is not suited to Huggle's rapidfire style. Throwaway85 (talk) 04:43, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi, why huggle doesn't show the new pages on eswiki? Regards --by Màñü飆¹5 ^talk 08:10, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

My goodness, this version of huggle is running so much more nicely than the older versions on my pc. Well done to the creator :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 14:42, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes it is. Tommy2010 01:16, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I think it would be nice if Huggle could automatically detect whether a particular vandal's username contains a blatantly offensive and/or disruptive string so that upon rolling back edits made by said vandal, Huggle would ask whether it should report/block the vandal immediately rather than leave a warning on the vandal's talk page. --SoCalSuperEagle (talk) 23:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

There is already automated reporting of "possibly offensive" usernames based on heuristics. Such a feature in Huggle would thus be meaningless as any usernames it picked up would have already been reported. Gurch (talk) 02:48, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

User:Donald Duck said that I should bring up the reason for my change at the Config page here. So, I do not think the "(talk)" in the reverting summary should be there because, well, it should be different than the manual revert summary. I don't have a lot to explain here unfortunately, although the appearance of the link makes it easier for users to view the user's warning history. Feel free to discuss! Schfifty3 03:27, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

You've pretty much covered what I was going to explain. We could always change the manual one since most users with rollback use Huggle. - Donald Duck (talk) 04:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi; when i open huggle; i see this error, and i dont log

ArgumentException: Value does not fall within the expected range.
   at System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.IWebBrowser2.Navigate2(Object& URL, Object& flags, Object& targetFrameName, Object& postData, Object& headers)
   at System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.PerformNavigate2(Object& URL, Object& flags, Object& targetFrameName, Object& postData, Object& headers)
   at System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.PerformNavigateHelper(String urlString, Boolean newWindow, String targetFrameName, Byte[] postData, String headers)
   at System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.set_Url(Uri value)
   at Huggle.BrowserTab.InitializeComponent()
   at Huggle.BrowserTab..ctor()
   at Huggle.Main.InitializeComponent()
   at Huggle.Main..ctor()
   at Huggle.LoginForm.Done()
   at Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject)

Can anyone explain? Thanks Diegusjaimes complaints 19:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Well first you do not have rollback rights on Wikipedia, which is required for huggle to work. You also need a custom .css page, such as mine here: user:tommy2010/huggle.css Tommy2010 01:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

You can copy and paste mine if you'd like. Tommy2010 01:15, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

It was a strange mistake on eswiki only happened to Diegusjaimes, it appeared from nowhere and was solved from nowhere --by Màñü飆¹5 ^talk 09:11, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

A useful feature would be a button to add the user to the #cvn-wp-en blacklist. I often add vandals that I revert to the blacklist on that channel via my irc client so that twinkle users are aware of that user or ip vandal. It would be much easier if there was a button on huggle to add them. --Seahorseruler ^{(Talk Page) (Contribs) (Report a Vandal)} 23:17, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

here? --John (talk) 01:19, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

It appears to be a dispute about whether the edit summary of a revert should link to the user page of the user whose revision was reverted to. NotAnonymous0 did I err?|Contribs 04:18, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

And as has been said many a time there is no link for a reason. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 08:37, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

There is also no need for a link. It is just the username of whoever happened to last edit the page before the vandal did, which could be anyone, often from months ago. The only reason it is included at all is so that it is unambiguous to someone viewing the page history exactly what was reverted. A link to the userpage is thus pointless because in the page history, there is already a link to their userpage on the very next line. Gurch (talk) 13:08, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Whenever I try to use the "undo recent actions" button, huggle stops responding and has to close. What can I do to fix this? --Seahorseruler ^{(Talk Page) (Contribs) (Report a Vandal)} 18:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Can we add the uw-advert series of templates to our warning options? Maybe do something to specify that spam is for spam links. Thanks, Ray^Talk 07:00, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Today I started getting this error message every minute or so (using 0.9.5):

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Huggle.Misc.HtmlToWikiText(String Text)
at Huggle.Processing.ProcessDiff(Edit Edit, String DiffText, BrowserTab Tab)
at Huggle.Requests.DiffRequest.Done()
at Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone()
at Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject)

If I press "Continue" I can keep editing, but then it'll come up again a short time later. I haven't changed any of my settings since yesterday. Any ideas? ... discospinster _talk 15:15, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Me too! exactly the same message. Looks like WP must have changed something (again) - it does it more if you try to go back to an earlier revision (the "Z" command).  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 21:05, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I wonder if it has to do with the new "delete selected revision" thing that's just gone live? Maybe it conflicts with some other code. ... discospinster _talk 21:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I started getting this a day or two ago with version 0.9.4 before I upgraded to 0.9.5 (and continued getting same error), so it's not a recent change to the Huggle code. -- Tom N (tcncv) talk/contrib 23:20, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

This problem might only occur for administrators. Revision delete markup in the edit summary is triggering the error. I submitted issue 192. -- Tom N (tcncv) talk/contrib 00:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I was getting this error but nolonger seem to be... Can anyone else confirm? ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:13, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Should be fixed in the next version. (Cannot easily test because I am not an administrator) Gurch (talk) 10:51, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

So far today I have not had the same problem as before. ... discospinster _talk 18:12, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I have run the updated code in debug mode as an admin and confirmed that both the IF and the ELSEIF paths execute properly. The final ELSE is not being hit (as expected). Thanks for the super-fast turnaround and for an overall great product. -- Tom N (tcncv) talk/contrib 23:59, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Shortly after getting rollback, I began to use huggle to revert vandalism. However, I found that Huggle does not consistently warn users, sometimes completely skipping warnings. I no longer use huggle due to this. Please look into why this error is occurring, and, if possible, correct it. Best wishes. Immunize (talk) 18:52, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Quick question, where you using the most recent version? ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 19:58, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Immunize, can you confirm that it's not due to a near-simultaneous warning by another user for the same vandalism/bad contribution (only one goes through), or a case where a user has already received four warnings, and an AIV report was generated and amended instead? TheFeds 21:36, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I know that in at least some of the cases the edit itself was reverted, it was the users first vandal edit (ruling out the possibility that they have received 4 warnings) and no other editor had edited that users talk page (I then had to warn them with Twinkle). Immunize (talk) 22:20, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Any links to these users or diffs? :P ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:11, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Cases where warnings won't be generated:

• You only selected 'revert' not 'revert and warn'
• User has not edited since their previous warning
• User's was previously warned less than 10 seconds ago
• User already has a final warning
• User has been reported
• User is blocked
• User's talk page is protected
• An error occured trying to edit the user's talk page (should be shown in the log)

If none of the above, something is wrong. Note that if a user is not warned automatically you can still use the 'warn' button to warn them. Gurch (talk) 10:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Why would Huggle not warn a user if they have not edited since the most recent warning? Immunize (talk) 13:31, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

There would be no point - they haven't seen/responded to the warning since it was made. It is possible they will stop when they see the warning, or have read the warning and stopped, so further warnings would be counter-productive. Ale_Jrb^talk 14:07, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

I've just downloaded version 0.9.6, and Huggle no longer loads revisions. The filtered edits list is still working, and the history and contribution bars at the top function as before, but the revision window is stuck on the initial, default screen. Is anyone else having this problem? -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 13:59, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Just downloaded 0.9.6 and tried logging in. Even when all details are completed the login button is greyed out and unclickable. Any ideas? Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 18:09, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Follow up - but if I hit ↵ Enter, it logs me in... – ukexpat (talk) 18:16, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Can there be like a stop button where if you go wrong and start reverting the wrong thing, you can stop huggle from reverting the page, would be very good for accidential reverts. Sophie ^(Talk) 18:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

It that big red "X" on the toolbar - mind you, it often causes my Huggle to crash...  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 20:41, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

ahh ok :) Sophie ^(Talk) 20:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Note though that once you've sent a request through the Internet, there's no way to "take it back", so if you try to cancel a revert when Huggle has already sent the request it will still succeed. You'll need to undo the revert (or just revert your own edit). What the cancel button is useful for is stopping additional edits such as warnings/reports being made. But yes, it usually causes an error at the moment, I haven't got round to fixing that yet.

Got a pop up, said to report the following:
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

  at Huggle.Misc.FindString(String Source, String From, String To)

  at Huggle.Processing.ProcessRc(String Result)

  at Huggle.Requests.RcApiRequest.Done()

  at Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone()

  at Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject)

Sophie ^(Talk) 20:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Probably a similar problem to the one a few sections further up this page. Will look into it when I have time. Gurch (talk) 13:33, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi, on eswiki Huggle skip the warns left by others users, as you can see here, any idea about what is wrong? --by Màñü飆¹5 ^talk 21:31, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

When using the IRC feed, the filtered new pages list never tags any filtered pages, but when using the API queries it does. Anyone know what the deal is? Falcon8765 (talk) 23:04, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm a swedish Wikipedia user and administrator. What steps have to be taken to enable huggle on our Wikipedia? tetraedycal, tetraedycal 21:57, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

• Add the wiki code and URL under "projects:" on meta:Huggle/Config
• Create sv:Wikipedia:Huggle/Config, and copy the contents of Wikipedia:Huggle/Config to it
• Edit that page to set the necessary settings for sv.wikipedia. For example, you'll probably want the various edit summaries to be in your native language, and your project may not have some of the processes (e.g. speedy deletion, vandalism reports) that en.wikipedia has, so the parts of the config page relating to those can be deleted.

Gurch (talk) 22:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. :) tetraedycal, tetraedycal 09:21, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Some users cannot select sv.wikipedia in the list of projects. Any ideas of what the issue might be? tetraedycal, tetraedycal 19:00, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Please make a version of Huggle that is natively compatible with Mac OS X. I have been wanting to use Huggle for a while now, and it's disappointing it isn't natively compatible with Macs. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐) 23:57, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

You do realise how much work that'd be? If WINE/Mono get themselves into gear, it should be able to "just run" —Reedy 00:41, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

By "native" I assume you mean Objective-C? There's no way I'm even going to attempt doing a large GUI app in that. Gurch (talk) 02:25, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I want a Mac version that works without the use of additional emulation software. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐) 03:20, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, a Mac OS X version would be extremely helpful for us Mac users. However I'm guessing it would be extremely difficult for someone to script from scratch again. Forenti^talk 23:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

You seem to be doing pretty fine with this Igloo thing you have - it seems like a good tool - I thought you were a Huggle user until closer inspection... Orphan Wiki 00:05, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

The point is a new language (not so much of an issue), but also a new development environment, a new operating system + hardware (not cheap if you're not already a Mac user). Without running it emulated, or converting it to say Java... —Reedy 01:10, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, there's no chance you'd ever get a supported Mac OS X version. Like I can afford a Mac at the moment. The best you could theoretically hope for is a platform-agnostic version that happened to work on a Mac. If I ever even had time to work on Huggle at all. Gurch (talk) 01:48, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Queue--> Manage Queues--> List Builder--> Right click an item--> Remove--> Save and Close . . . Does not remove the item. It's still there even after restarting Huggle. kcylsnavS{^screech_harrass} 21:27, 31 May 2010 (UTC)