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--24.242.142.179 21:11, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This whole thing about "Machismo" is a generalization. I can assure that this condition has progressively been changing in the last few years. --User:Francisco M. 4:12, 2 December 2006

qwgoing to be working extensively on this page in the coming weeks and months with the purpose of turning it into a feature article. ardvark and suggestions are welcome! Spangineer 23:55, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)

also, information about the cult to "la santa muerte" practiced by some Mexican criminals and about the increasing freedom of speech (Fox is the first Mexican president of whom Mexicans have made fun of while being president).

Feature Mexican-American communities throughout the US. Especially, Los Angeles, Dallas, San Diego, Denver, Chicago, New York state, Florida state, San Antonio etc...

actually, the Mexican communities in U.S. should be in a page linked to the U.S. culture, since is with the americans whom with they has the most direct interaction. and also can allow to show the relationship the Mexican immigrants, other Hispanic inmigrants, Americans of Hispanic heritage, non-Hispanic inmigrants and the Average Anglophone Americans have.

Philosophy of MTexico would also be interesting to add.

about Méxican ideology is sad to discover than many here still believe in thinks like: "if I think a law is unfair I willn't obey it".

I'd like to help improve this article. It is on my to-do list. If you'd like to coordinate before major undertakings, reach me at my talkpage. The revert I did today mentioned the tradition of Las Posadas, which deserves mention. But it was out of place, ungrammatical, and unsourced. So as long as we mention las Posadas in our rewrite, I think that contributor will be contented.--Rockero 03:30, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"also explains the general lack of conviction among Mexican Catholics today" What? Mexicans are some of the most religious people on the world. Church attendance is much higher than in the United States and far more people identify themselves as being religious than in the West. Gabriel

im mexican and i dont go to the church, that is a stereotype

The language section needs some major work, focusing half of the section of a term like "chingar" is innapropriate and misrepresents the full extent of the richness and history of spanish spoken in Mexico. It should be noted that Spanish developed in spain, so has influences from surrounding regions including arabic. Of course regional idioms should be mentioned, but if you mention one vernacular term, it should be mentioned that colloquialisms occur throughout the country and vary depending on the natives of the region, the occupants over time, and colonization. Maybe the development of spanish in Mexico would be a better starting point that would allow explanation of the incorporation of various languages and cultures the vernacular.

Religion: The statements on religion have no references, such sweeping generalizations should have some sort of backing, at least some statistics. 129.81.124.42 01:45, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right about the language section, but the fact that Paz spends so much time on that one word suggests that the section on Chingar should stay, although it might be condensed somewhat. As for the religion information, that's in the CIA world factbook (see external links); I'll change that to a reference when I can. --Spangineer^[es] (háblame) 12:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The part about adultery is too excessive. While adultery might be somewhat common in some areas, it's not at all a "social norm." Catholicism certainly doesn't approve of it. The cult of la muerte is important. And it's not just criminals, but also the police and anyone with dangerous jobs. Día del los muertos is very important also, and lately, it's been extended to last two days, because of the adoption of Halloween in urban areas.

are people sure that a section on chingar belongs here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.138.22 (talk • contribs)

I am not sure; while it is part of the Mexican folklore and Octavio Paz does devote a whole chapter to it, I am not sure if it would be encyclopedic to write a section on it. And yes chingar does not mean "to rape" it means "to fuck".--Alonso 15:05, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha, this is a very accurate description of the use of this word in my country! But chingar doesn't mean "rape". --User: Francisco M. 4:07, 02 December 2006

Chingar is translated as "to fuck," not "to rape." I don't know where you got that one.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.118.42.83 (talk • contribs)

In the family section you should speak of the work of the anthropologist Oscar Lewis and the writings of Ernest Hemingway. the stereotypical "Macho" is in many ways based on these two authors. see "the son's of Lewis" by Mathew C Gutmann

As to the santa muerte or santeria, you could compare it with similar cults in the carribean as it is closely related to one from Dominica i think, i'm not really sure on that one if someone could confirm it i'll find a source

That's not entirely true, halloween has indeed become very popular but it is in no way related to the day of the dead. the dates just happen to coincide; halloween on the 31st, all saints day on the 1st and the day of the dead on the 2nd. the holiday still lasts one day. the best celebration of this holiday i've seen is in Patzcuaro in Michoacan, that should be included.

As to chingar, i'd say it is closer to "to skrew" used in slang in the US, both in a sexual way and a form of swindleing

What does the first sentence in the section about language mean?: "Spanish is the official language of Mexico because they do not speak French." It leaves me completely baffled. Historically speaking, Mexicans speak Spanish because the Spaniards conquered the territory. Maybe the sentence means that the French were unable to impose their rule on Mexico, despite their various attempts. (Did the French even attempt to make French the official lange of Mexico?) One could just as well say that Spanish is the official language of Mexico because they don't speak Farsi. Further, were Spanish the official language it would be because there was a law that said such. In fact, the "Mexico" says:

"The Mexican Constitution does not mention the existence of a de-jure official language, however Spanish is spoken by 93% of the population and used for all official purposes, making it a de-facto official language. Nonetheless, the Law of Linguistic Rights, approved in 2001, grants all 62 indigenous languages spoken in Mexico the same validity as Spanish in all territories in which they are spoken, and all indigenous peoples are entitled to request documents and some public services in their languages. Along with Spanish, they have the legal status of "national languages". Approximately 6% of the Mexican population speaks an indigenous language, and 3% are not bilingual with Spanish. Of these, Nahuatl is spoken by 1.5 million and Maya by 0.8 million; while others, like Lacandon, are spoken by fewer than one hundred people. The Mexican government has promoted and established bilingual education programs in some indigenous rural communities."

)As an aside, I don't know what language the 4 per cent. of Mexicans who speak neither Spanish [93 per cent.] or exclusively an indigenous language [3 per cent.] speak. I have trouble believing that there are so many mono-lingual foreigners in Mexico, and Mexico isn't really an immigrant country, and most immigrants in Mexico whom I have met also speak Spanish.) Finally, I would add a link to languages of Mexico. 72.88.237.89 04:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)Regiomontana[reply]

That was vandalism, now removed. I've added the link as per your suggestion. Thanks for your input! --Spangineer^ws (háblame) 04:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i will remove all the content that talk bad about we the mexicans!!!!User:Envidia

And it will promptly be reverted under grounds of vandalism. Please refer to Wikipedia's policies on both contributing and deleting articles. Your best approach would be to appropriately cite references for content included already in the article that doesn't, or marking them as such at the very least. Oleksandr 11:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article's a mess, incomplete and badly written, and what's more it seems that hardly anyone's watching it, as vandalism doesn't get reverted very quickly.

Meanwhile, the last sentence of the "Religion" section is unfinished, it seems. Any idea what might follow? --jbmurray (talk|contribs) 00:39, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think an article should be added to the main page which describes Nationalism in Mexico, it is well known that in mexico, the media, and anything related to the country including decisions are highly regarded by nationalistic sentiments. My reasons are:

1. due to the fact that mexico has among the highest nationalism in the world.

2. no article ever mentions it, yet it is extremely in the mexican culture.

If no significant responses are made, i myself would gladly, and well studied respectively, will added. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jerahad (talk • contribs) 06:02, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

I wound up here because I was hoping a Mexican page would have that spelled properly, as I don't think I've got it quite right huh? Need it for the Sculpture#The Americas, ws hoping there was an article on it....Skookum1 (talk) 02:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So that's how it's spelled - Churrirguresque, in English anyways - hopefully somebody here knows enough to start the article some day...I don't....Skookum1 (talk) 05:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The most widely accepted spelling is "piñata", (in spanish is a different sound for n or ñ)... Check the Piñata article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi%C3%B1ata. - Xammoh, November, 28 1:26 GMT

Stealing Americans jobs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.83.120.99 (talk) 18:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]