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== Michael J Smith of Sweden., born in Tiline, Ky. August 13, 1938 ==

.This entire bio is untrue figments of his imagination. He left out his first marriage and two sons and his second marriage in Sweden and two daughters, he told everyone he was a doctor among other things. This is a man like the person in the movie "The Great Imposter". It's sad to see all of his lies being published in a legitimate site such as this. Do your research. Thanks.. Oh, he was also in prison two or three times. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/174.48.69.212|174.48.69.212]] ([[User talk:174.48.69.212|talk]]) 22:20, 23 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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June 16

Incorrect info on kevin dubrow/quiet riot

In the kevin dubrow page greg leon is mentioned as randy rhoads replacement. He was short lived, Bob Stefan from band satyr ( which included Chuck Wright) was the guitar player on the demos and up until they got signed, which he was then replced by carlos cavazo. Bob and Chuck were mainly committed to Satyr and were doing Dubrow as a side project/ money. When quiet riot got signed, spencer proffer did not think Bob Stefan had what it takes and fortunately carlos cavazo became available after the break up of Snow — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.135.118.19 (talk) 04:01, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As long as you have reliable sources you are invited to fix it yourself. Wikipedia only exists because people like you have access to knowledge and wish to share it. --Jayron32 20:57, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding release date of "Sri Jagadguru Aadi Sankara" Telugu Movie

Dear,

 In this url 
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Jagadguru_Aadi_Sankara

has mentioned that Release date(s) 8 May 2013

But this is false statement. Could you update this.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.172.7.102 (talk) 07:27, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You can edit that yourself. Just click on the "Edit" label beside the title and correct the date.
Oh, and welcome to Wikipedia. HiLo48 (talk) 07:34, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with Blu-ray sound

I'm having problems with the sound o a new Blu-ray disc, but it may be some setting. I have the Blu-ray player connected to the TV with an HDMI cable. I get sound on the menu and on the bonus feature, but not in the main film. It as audio selections LPCM stereo and DTS-HD master audio - neither works. If I use the audio outputs from the Blu-ray player, I get sound, but the HDMI should be working. I tested another BD and it has three audio options: PCM stereo, DTS-HD, and Dolby Digital 5.1. It works only on Dolby Digital 5.1. So I can't get PCM stereo or DTS-HD audio to work. I've looked through the settings and I can't find anything to set. Any suggestions? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 18:24, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible that the Blu-ray disc only has Dolby Digital 5.1 ? I'd think the Blu-Ray player would be able to convert that to some other format (although not quite as good as if it was in that audio format to begin with), but perhaps that feature is absent or broken in your Blu-ray player. StuRat (talk) 03:04, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have many Blu-Ray discs. One has three audio options (PCM stereo, DTS-HD, and Dolby Digital 5.1) but it only plays back audio on Dolby 5.1. The other disc has the first two, but not Dolby 5.1, and it doesn't play back sound, except on the menu and the bonus feature. I have it connected to the TV with an HDMI cable. I've gone through the settings and I can't find anything to change. If I connect the regular audio output (phono jacks), I get sound. But I don't know why I don't get it with just the HDMI cable. I think that either the player is defective or I have it set up wrong. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:39, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I went through all of the setup options again and tried things - nothing worked. I told it to reset to the factory defaults - that didn't work either. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See HDMI#Audio_support. If this is the issue, then the only workaround is to use the separate audio cables for sound. StuRat (talk) 04:05, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the TV is such a device. It is a flat-screen LCD TV that is about 5 years old. I went through the settings on the TV and there was nothing that could affect it. And I don't have the problem with DVDs. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 04:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Is it a premium model TV ? If not, they might have cut a few corners by using the HDMI to DVI conversion rather than accepting HDMI directly, thus causing this problem. (If anybody complains, they can just tell them to use separate audio cables.) StuRat (talk) 08:28, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't a premium model - it is on the low end of the price range. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 12:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


June 17

Looking for a Mockumentary made in the last 15 years

I know I saw this mockumentary film, a fake newscast set in the future about some astronauts landing on a planet. I could swear that one of the main "anchors" was a black woman. This film is like those fake news mockumentaries like "Without Warning" and "Special Bulletin". Does anyone know what this film is? I'm going crazy! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.37.28 (talk) 10:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Two alternatives, though a bit more recent than 15 years:
1. Maybe this BBC 'fictional documentary' about a manned grand tour of the planets. It was called Space Odyssey: Voyage To The Planets and one of the characters, Nina Sulman, was played by black British actress Michelle Joseph.
2. Maybe Defying Gravity, a multinational co-production based on the above BBC documentary but more of a TV drama. This show featured black Canadian actress Karen LeBlanc as Earth-based character, Eve Weller-Shaw.
Astronaut (talk) 17:37, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. This was not on film and looked like a real newscast but set in the future. Anyone else know?

Argh. I think I've seen it too, but any details in my memory are obscured by the end of episode 35 of Monty Python's Flying Circus. —Tamfang (talk) 04:43, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Particular episode of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit

Hi, I'm looking for the episode where the "good guys" (I think it was an episode that had Casey Novak as ADA) arrange for a totally unsuitable lawyer for one of their suspects, hoping to gain a tactical advantage that way. Anybody out there that happens to remember the episode title/production number? Thanks in advance -- 149.172.200.27 (talk) 11:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It might be the episode titled "Ace" (Season 11, Episode 22) where the ADA obtained a shadow counsel for a suspect because of issues with the regular defense attorney.    → Michael J    19:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, I found this episode summary http://allthingslawandorder.blogspot.de/2010/05/law-order-svu-ace-recap-review.html and it doesn't sound like what I remembered. In "Ace", the appointment of the shadow counsel is in the suspect's interest, whilst in the episode I remember, they deliberately picked a lawyer that was "bad" for the suspect. What I don't remember is if it was a lawyer that specialized in another field, maybe family law or something like that, or if it was a lawyer they knew the suspect would have issues with (like a Jewish lawyer for a Ku-Klux-Klan/Nazi suspect). -- 188.105.132.92 (talk) 20:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Nash's many notes in a word

Is there a musical term for this sequence of pitches in a word of a song? In a video of Johnny Nash singing "I Can See Clearly Now", he begins to sing the word "skies", then drops into different notes and/or pitches, cascading through eight changes, before finishing the word. Here: [1] beginning at 1.31. And is it notes? or registers. Thanks in advance, Manytexts (talk) 11:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Melisma. ---Sluzzelin talk 12:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect, thanks. I'd like to add Nash's treatment as an example, into that article. Is it okay to reference this video as it is either on Youtube or to this lyrics site? Manytexts (talk) 12:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The ideal solution would be to find a source that describes Nash's style as melisma. Referencing the video means that you're the one making the connection, and that, IMHO, counts as Original Research. Rojomoke (talk) 12:53, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect! thank you, Manytexts (talk) 02:07, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is it B minor? Czech is Cyrillized (talk) 12:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

According to this link, it is indeed written in B Minor. Hia10 (talk) 18:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


June 18

My mom once told me of some producer's vanity card at the end of a TV show, which depicted an elderly woman knocked over on her rocking chair by a burst of static from her TV, causing her to exclaim some unintelligible expletive of some sort. If I have the details right, can anyone discern whose vanity card this was? 66.41.216.19 (talk) 02:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your IP address geolocates to the United States. Should we assume that your mother saw this vanity card in the US? Dismas|(talk) 08:48, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A google search of "rocking chair production logo" finds an answer from several years ago on another question & answer site, saying that it's for David E. Kelly Productions. Here's a Youtube video of the logo: [2] -- 71.35.105.42 (talk) 15:36, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good job finding that. When Kelley's shows like Ally McBeal and The Practice were hot in the 90's we would see this several times a week. She says "you stinker" as she is knocked out of the chair. MarnetteD | Talk 15:53, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good find! I had done some searching and I guess I wasn't using quite the right keywords in my search because I hadn't come up with anything close to that. Dismas|(talk) 19:15, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is Vertical-Sync (common in Windows/Mac videogames) good or bad for quality of the graphics?

As far as graphics and quality go, should I turn on V-Sync? I am sure turning it on will not degrade the speed at which the game runs with my computer.

Thanks! Nicholasprado (talk) 19:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This would probably stand a better chance of being answered on the computing refdesk. Rojomoke (talk) 14:58, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


In general, yes, if the game is running fast enough, you want V-Sync on.
Vertical sync will syncronize the game's framerate to the monitor's display rate.
If those two things are NOT syncronized then it causes a problem where the top half of the image is from the old frame, but the bottom half is from the new frame. This causes a very distracting "tearing" effect, especially as you pan the camera from left to right. (For example, if you pan the camera past a vertical line, the line will actually break partway down!)
The disadvantage of using V-Sync is if your computer isn't QUITE fast enough to produce every frame. If your monitor is running at 60hz, and your game is running at 59FPS, then turning on V-Sync may actually lower your framerate to 30fps. (Because every other frame would be just barely late, and have to "wait" until it could be drawn.) 75.69.10.209 (talk) 20:14, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That 30 fps would happen if the game was using double buffering; if triple buffering is available the game can (rather than idle wait for vsync) render a new frame into a third buffer (with the confidence that a retrace won't force that buffer to be shown when it's half finished). In your example the game would then get an effective frame rate of 59fps - rendering on a 60Hz display it would result in one frame being repeated. I don't know if people really can see that stutter in practice (some people claim to be able to see, and to be bothered by, all kinds of video artefacts that I never notice). A note about how to use triple buffering in Windows Direct3D games is here. -- Finlay McWalterTalk 10:50, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
On the other hand, how bad that is depends on whether you find 30hz or tearing to be worse when playing games. In general if you don't see any tearing, don't worry about V-sync. If you do, turn it on. MChesterMC (talk) 09:46, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

June 19

South African Broadcasting Coporation

The SABC has 18( eighteen) Radio stations; how many songs do they play daily within a 24hours day, how much of their content is South African? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GloriaBosman (talkcontribs) 15:20, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Was there ever a remake of a classic movie where the main character dies...

But in the remake the main character lives, so it will be better received by audiences? Adaptations of books (Scarlet Letter, etc.) don't count.--Jerk of Thrones (talk) 19:54, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am rummaging through my memory banks and haven't come up with a good one yet. I can say that the horror films made by Universal Studios {Dracula, Wolf Man etc) in the 30s and 40s seemed to kill off the monsters at the end of each film only to have them pop up in the next one since they were a steady revenue stream. I know this isn't exactly what you are looking for and I look forward to any answers that others might provide. MarnetteD | Talk 02:03, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The final disposition of Quasimodo in the various film versions of Hunchback of Notre Dame has gone from dying to maybe or maybe not dying to definitely surviving. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots03:14, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A bit obscure and kind of "cheating": I've seen some "Tudors" stuff on youtube where fans spliced together a series of clips to make it appear that Anne Boleyn didn't get the axe after all, and most everyone lived happily ever after. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots06:11, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting; I assumed there were more examples. I was thinking it would be funny if someone remade Citizen Kane and he finds Rosebud and becomes a better and happier person once he and Rosebud are reunited, and he lives happily ever after. Critics would love it (not)...--Jerk of Thrones (talk) 04:01, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You mean he finds his childhood sled again, stashed in his attic or garage or something? (Or maybe finds it on eBay?) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots06:12, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Your CK example reminds me that in the era before film there was a phenomenon during the Victorian era where some of Shakespeare's tragedies had their endings rewritten so that everyone lived. This is described quite humorously in Dickens' Nicholas Nickleby and is portrayed to hilarious effect in The Life and Adventures of Nicholas Nickleby (play) which is available on DVD. Who knows what may happen in the future - some day maybe they will make a new version of the HBO show (and GRR Martin books) where everyone lives at the Red Wedding. :-) MarnetteD | Talk 04:24, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not quite what you're looking for, but in the classic 1929 Pandora's Box, Lulu isn't killed by Jack the Ripper in the French version. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:57, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Here we go: Robert Mitchum's character is killed in Out of the Past (1947), but Jeff Bridges' lives, Against All Odds. If you really, really stretch the meaning of "classic", then one 50 Foot Woman dies in 1958, but another lives in 1993. There are probably more to be found in List of film remakes. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:01, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Dang it. Out of the Past is adapted from a novel (as is the Hunchback). Clarityfiend (talk) 10:08, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In the 1942 Cat People, Irena commits suicide. The synopsis of the 1982 remake seems to indicate she lives. Klaatu dies (in a complicated sort of way) in The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951), but not in the 2008 remake, at least according to the synopsis. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:15, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Here's an interesting one (though the films are based on a novel): In The Three Godfathers (1919), one survives; in Three Godfathers (1936), they all die; and finally in 3 Godfathers (1948), John Wayne's character lives. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:34, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In George Sluizer's 1988 film The Vanishing, the hero dies. In his 1993 US remake the hero lives. I recall at the time of the remake, the producers wouldn't accept an unhappy ending. --TrogWoolley (talk) 15:14, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Don't let them get their hands on Romeo and Juliet. Or Hamlet. Or the New Testament. -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 22:26, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How about Cyrano? —Tamfang (talk) 22:34, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well C.D. did live in Roxanne (film) :-) Granted that isn't a remake. MarnetteD | Talk 22:57, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Spared By The Adaptation" (TV Tropes) lists a couple of examples (though not all of them are main characters and I'm unsure whether it was about audience reception in each case) such as When a Stranger Calls (2006 film) (remake of When a Stranger Calls (1979 film)) where "both the kids and the would-be killer" are spared, or "Mari and Justin" in The Last House on the Left (2009 film) (remake of The Last House on the Left (1972 film)). Judy in The Crazies (2010 film) (remake of The Crazies (1973 film)) or more complex examples such as "The Village Elder in The Magnificent Seven. Chico is a partial example, as he's a composite of two of the main characters of Seven Samurai: Kikuchiyo, who dies, and Katsushiro, who does not." ---Sluzzelin talk 00:15, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(oops, and I missed the "classic" part. That leaves me with the last example, sort of. ---Sluzzelin talk 00:21, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not even that. The OP specified the main character. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:44, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Get Carter (1971) vs. Get Carter (2000). Clarityfiend (talk) 03:49, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

June 21

League MVPs coming from teams that missed the playoffs that season

In the history of the big North American sports leagues, what are the examples of a season's MVP coming from a team that missed the playoffs that particular season? I could look up our lists of MVPs, but that would take a bit of digging, so could at least some examples be listed here? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:25, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not a professional MVP, but Paul Hornung is the sole winner of the Heisman Trophy from a losing team; Notre Dame went 2-8 in 1956, making him by far the Heisman winner from the worst team. Many contend that Jim Brown should have won the award that year, but racism kept him from doing so. Hornung was a great player who went on to an illustrious pro career as well, but his Heisman win was one of the most controversial in history. --Jayron32 03:31, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • More on pro athletes. In pro baseball and pro football, very few teams made the postseason for most of their history. Major League Baseball only had the World Series with no pre-World Series playoffs until 1969, so many of the early league winners of the Major League Baseball Most Valuable Player Award likely did not play in that season's post-season. Likewise, the NFL only had the NFL Championship Game until 1967 (the year of Super Bowl II; the first four Super Bowls were contested between two different leagues which merged in 1970 to form the modern NFL). Also, the NFL itself does not sanction an "official" MVP award; any of the various press-awarded National Football League Most Valuable Player Awards from before 1969 were likely to come from non-Championship playing teams. Basketball and Hockey are much less likely to have had such a player, as for most of their history, more than 50% of the NBA and NHL have made the postseason playoff tournaments. You can research such players who may have played for non-playoff teams at NBA Most Valuable Player Award and Hart Memorial Trophy (NHL), if there are any. --Jayron32 03:39, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Most recent baseball MVP to miss the playoffs: Albert Pujols, 2008. The Cardinals did not make the playoffs for the 2008 Major League Baseball season. I didn't check further back than that. --Jayron32 03:46, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • By the AP list of NFL MVPs, every single one of them has made the post season the year they won it, even among those from before 1967 (I checked them all). A near make was Jim Brown in 1958: the NFL had a special play-off game that year for the Eastern Conference, as the Giants and Browns were tied for the Conference lead; the Browns lost that game, but technically the Browns did play a (special) postseason game that year. Other than that, the rest are all clear post-season players. --Jayron32 03:55, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • I haven't checked every NBA winner, but I spot checked those from teams I don't remember playing in championship games in various years; all of them made the playoffs, so I am fairly certain no NBA MVP winner has ever missed the playoffs. --Jayron32 04:00, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Checking the NHL, I found two winners of the Hart Trophy I can find who didn't make the Stanley Cup Playoffs: Tommy Anderson of the Brooklyn Americans in the 1941–42 NHL season; an amazing feat given that six of the seven teams made the playoffs. This was the last pre-Original Six NHL year; after that the league was six teams, four of which made the playoffs. In the 1953–54 NHL season, Al Rollins for the Blackhawks missed the playoffs that year. I kinda ran out of energy after finding those two; there may have been others more recently than that, but there's at least two of them. --Jayron32 04:09, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sports teams missing the playoffs one season and winning the championship the following season

Last April, I asked a question about teams that won a championship one season but missed the playoffs the following season. Now, I was wondering: what about the reverse? Has there ever been cases in the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, MLS and CFL, or any major or prominent sports league where a team missed the playoffs one season but won the championship the following season? If there are any examples from the MLB, as there were no playoffs prior to 1969, only post-1969 teams should be listed. Again, I could just simply look at our articles, but that would take a bit of digging and effort. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:24, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's extremely common in MLB, given how few playoff teams there are, even today. More interesting in MLB is going from "worst-to-first" which happened to both teams in the 1991 World Series; the Atlanta Braves and the Minnesota Twins had both finished last in their respective divisions in 1990. The Tampa Bay Rays reached the 2008 World Series after not only finishing last in the AL East in 2007, but never coming close to a winning record in their 10 previous years of existence. The Mets were 9th out of 10 teams in the National League in 1968 before winning the World Series in 1969; like the Rays, they had never had a prior winning season. The Florida Marlins also won their first World Series, in 1997, in their first-ever winning season. None of those last three teams had ever made the postseason before, as no team in major league history has ever made the postseason with a losing record (although it could have happened in 1994 if the postseason had not been cancelled). The Los Angeles Dodgers won the 1959 World Series after finishing 7th out of 8 teams in 1958. There were other teams who had huge turnarounds like that. --Xuxl (talk) 12:39, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The '04 Chicago White Sox came in second in their division and then went on to win the World Series in 2005. Dismas|(talk) 12:48, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It has happened frequently in the NFL as well, most recently in 2009: The New Orleans Saints had finished last in the NFC South in 2008 (though a respectable 8-8 for a last place team), and won the 2009 Super Bowl. In 1999, the 8-8 Baltimore Ravens missed the playoffs, and won the Super Bowl the next year. There's likely more as you count back further, again very likely as before 1967, there was no Playoffs, just a Championship Game. --Jayron32 20:58, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The 1969–70 Montreal Canadiens missed the playoffs based on goal difference, the first time they missed since 1947-48, and in 1970-71 won the 1971 Stanley Cup Finals. (read the regular season account of the 1969-70 season) The 1989–90 Pittsburgh Penguins missed the playoffs by one point. In 1990-91 they won the 1991 Stanley Cup Finals. Their first ever win.
Apart from the listed examples, situations have happened in English football, which could be compared to a sports franchise in an American sports league not qualifying for the playoffs sections of a specific season. However these situations in English football/soccer are, in my opinion, more satisfying and compelling to club members and supporters alike, due to their rare nature. I am of course referring to when a team spends a season in a league that is not the top-flight (Modern-day nPower Championship), which in this case is going to be the 1904-05 English Second Division, in which Liverpool were in the second division, won it, were promoted, and subsequently won the First Division the next season, a feat which I would consider more impressive than simply missing out on a playoffs, considering we are talking about a team who spent the previous season not even in the same division. Nicholasprado (talk) 07:33, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am legend

Hello, I was just wondering why the movies The Omega Man and The Last Man On Earth are not linked some how with each other? They indivdually are both linked to I Am Legend. Thank you for your time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pittsb02 (talkcontribs) 16:54, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article for each of the films makes mention of the other two adaptations and the original source novel by Richard Matheson. What other linking were you expecting? Astronaut (talk) 17:50, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

June 22

Hogan's Heros question

In Hogan's Heros, why does Col. Klink say "yes, sir" to Maj. Hochstetter, even though a colonel outranks a major? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:39, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's a comedy, rather than a documentary? HiLo48 (talk) 04:21, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There is no laughter when it happens. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 15:05, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) : In the US a Colonel outranks a major. Is that also true in German army? I see "major" as a rank for Germany at Command_and_obedience_in_the_Bundeswehr but not "colonel", so it would depend on what Germany rank Colonel corresponds to. Also, the article Command_and_obedience_in_the_Bundeswehr desribes several situations in which officer order is not based on rank. Perhaps Col. Klink and the major fall into one of those. And of course, what the previous respondant says is also true. It's just a TV show. RudolfRed (talk) 04:24, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The important factor is that Hochstetter was in the secret police (Gestapo). As such, he could have Klink arrested for treason (and likely executed). So, his power was greater than his actual rank would indicate. StuRat (talk) 06:04, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't rule out the possibility of ignorance on the part of the writers. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots10:34, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A this point in the pedantry, it probably should be pointed out that two German officers in a German-run WWII POW camp would probably *never* say "Yes, sir" to each other, regardless of their respective ranks. Because they'd be speaking German, so would say something like "Jawohl, mein Herr" instead. - I don't know what the standard acknowledgment is from a German Colonel to a German Major in a different arm of the service (the Language or Humanities Refdesk would likely be a better place to ask that), but "translating" it as "Yes, sir" might have been a choice by the script writers to reflect the power dynamic between Klink and Hochstetter. (Those two words effectively convey that Hochstetter is in a position to at least attempt to order Klink around, even if their strict military ranks wouldn't nominally suggest that fact). -- 71.35.127.227 (talk) 18:21, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sergeant Schulz was made to say "Jawohl, mein Colonel" to Klink more than a few times, interspersed with English. -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 21:12, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That is the way it is in American TV and movie - foreign characters mix English and their language, but almost always the foreign-language words are ones that are commonly known to Americans, like "buenos dias, amigo". Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 22:22, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm reminded of newsreels where they would talk about the dreaded German Luftwaffe. That's merely the German term for "Air Force", but Luftwaffe sounds more menacing somehow. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots02:04, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I've never yet seen an English-language movie about the Nazis where anyone says "Hail Hitler!", or refers to him as "The Leader", or to the regime he led as "The Third Empire". Actually, given that Reich means Empire, why didn't Hitler install himself, Napoleon-like, as "Emperor Adolf I"? -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 22:28, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This question is amenable to a serious answer, but perhaps not in this thread. See Reich in the meantime. Tevildo (talk) 23:09, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It also has to do with the character himself. Klink is a milquetoast, and cowers to anyone who approaches him with an authoritative tone, whether deserved or not.    → Michael J    02:02, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
With his family having escaped Nazi Germany, it would be no surprise if Klemperer relished playing a Nazi in that buffoonish way. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots07:59, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Spot on. From Werner Klemperer: Klemperer, conscious that he would be playing the role of a German officer during the Nazi regime, agreed to the part only on the condition that Klink would be portrayed as a fool who never succeeded. -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 09:34, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What was the lowest point in the history of any team in the higher tiers of English football?

Meaning, out of all these teams, which one has the 'record' for at one point being in a lower position than any other club. Another interesting question is, what club holds the record for the most league played in, for example, if Portsmouth were relegated four times in a row in the next four seasons from their current position in the Football League Two, they would end in up in some Evo-Stik league in Southern England, and that would mean that in the history of Portsmouth, they have played in eight different division/tiers/leagues what have you, and I'm wondering if there's been a team (even as far back as 20 tiers) that has played in an impressive amount of different divisions/tiers/leagues. If you can't find any English, than learning about teams in other countries like this would be fine too. Thanks! Nicholasprado (talk) 07:52, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It would help if you could narrow down the "all these teams". Do you mean the top flight or the top two for example? Wolves, Sheffield United and Swansea have, I think, attained the top flight after spells as low as the fourth division (Wolves downfall was spectacular, a million pounds each for Andy Gray and a new stand in 1978 to the fourth division and only that stand out of the four useable because of tightened safety rules by 1986 or so). Britmax (talk) 08:38, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have time at the present to fully research this, but Bradford City AFC went from the Premier League to the 4th tier of English football (League 2), before being promoted to League 1 this year. --TammyMoet (talk) 09:04, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well their neighbours dropped at least two divisions lower than that, even before they became a Phoenix club (association football) (an article where surely they should be listed). --Sussexonian (talk) 10:56, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I also see that they have played at some point in their history their spell in the first division and have also played as far low as the 9-10 tier of English football. Very nice. Nicholasprado (talk) 21:18, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's going to be tough to beat Gretna F.C. for this. Roughly in order they were in the FA's Carlisle and District League, Northern League Division 2 and 1, and Northern Premier League before switching to Scottish football, playing in Scottish League Divisions 3,2, and 1, and Scottish Premier League. If you accept the successor club Gretna F.C. 2008 as being the "same" club, their membership of the East of Scotland League brings the total to nine leagues. -- Finlay McWalterTalk 11:19, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
On a related point, AFC Wimbledon didn't exist in its present form before 2002, and started in the ninth tier but is now in the 4th tier, being an example of working your way upwards rather than falling down tables. Between 1977 and 1986 Swansea City AFC went from Division 4, to the First Division, and back to Division 4 in successive seasons. I highlight this one (I know Britmax mentioned it above but it is a special achievement to do it in such a short space of time) as an example of a current Premiership club that has yo-yoed somewhat over the last few years. And then there's Coventry City FC. Who knows where that will end? They have gone from Premier League to League One, but with their current messy situation could well go out of existence before the new season starts. --TammyMoet (talk) 10:20, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Help identifying a film

In the 1970's or perhaps 1980's, I remember the opening sequence of a film, that I'd like to identify. There is an "adventurer" and he has taken a young black witch into a cave to raise Beelzebub or similar. The witch manages this and she starts boasting to the adventurer that only she could have done it. Beelzebub points at her and her heart flies out of her chest, into his hand. She (naturally) falls dead, and the adventurer and B go off and presumably do nefarious deeds. I can only remember the opening sequence and I'd like to identify it, to see if I can watch it again. Thanks! --TrogWoolley (talk) 18:50, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Scope of the accidentals

My reference book is King Palmer's Teach Yourself the Piano. On page 35 (Accidentals) he explains how the sharp and flat signs are applied within a single measure. If there is a sharp sign for instance at G line it will raise tone for every note within this measure only (bold face is mine), unless cancelled somewhere within the same measure by a natural sign. This is very clear.

On page 37 however he says this: "The sharp in the key-signature means that every F in the piece must be played F sharp, unless ...." He is explaining the example right before on the page where a sharp sign stands right after the treble key at the beginning of staff. This is very unclear. What piece is he talking about? The whole piece of music, perhaps 20 pages?

I would appreciate an explanation in clear and geometrically unambiguous way. What is the scope of the accidentals?

Thank you, - Alex — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.52.14.15 (talk) 19:45, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See Accidental (music) and Key signature. The sharps and flats in the key signature apply until the next key signature (and many pieces are only in one key) - an accidental is a sharp, flat, or natural that _isn't_ part of the key signature, and just applies to the bar in which it appears. Tevildo (talk) 19:52, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you much. - Alex — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.52.14.15 (talk) 20:19, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just like the newspapaers???

Hi there Wiki people,

Oh, i did find what i am asking here in wikipedia. but, wanted to make sure it is right and give it a more personal touch. Here is what i would like answered:

(1) someone in Newspaper cartoon strip gave this analogy: the newspapers have the same amount of news to print everyday, how? i do know the answer but again would like another opinion on it?

(2) Newspapers also have the same base as any other knowledge center, e.g. a school board syllabus, college curriculum, or any university syllabus. and in everyday or laymans term we call it memories. and every subject has its own terminology for it. like in commerce it is called journal keeping. in medicine - transcription, in engineering - ED or engineering drawing, in Arts - drawing or painting a picture or music or authoring a book, in HE or HS it is called Project Management. what i would like to know is - what do you know by the meaning of word ~ "Viral idea" and what are its impact? like what they teach in Mass Communications!!! How does internet help in this direction? what is its gestation period and how long does it last?

(3) this on a personal note - Yours is a great website and a service to believe in. i am sure yours will last for Hundreds of years to come. and generations from now will benefit from its presence.

hope to get a full reply.

Yours Sincerely, R.N. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.97.80.237 (talk) 20:36, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Forgive me if I've misjudged the matter, but this sounds too much like a homework question for me to pretend otherwise. We can help you if you can show you've put in a serious effort first and are now stuck. -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 21:20, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(OR warning) As a retired journalist, I may be able to help. To question (1): This is a very simplified explanation. Newspapers do indeed have the same amount of space each day, usually. The key is in story ranking and selection. As deadline approaches, the available stories are ranked by editors. The highest ranking stories end up on Page 1, and others get put in the paper based on their importance. Those on the bottom of the list sometimes never get in. On what is called a "slow news day", a lesser story might work its way to the top, just because nothing more important happened. There are also so-called "evergreen" stories, usually features that have no timeliness and can run anytime to fill space. ... As to question (2), I honestly do not understand the question.    → Michael J    01:54, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

rap song with "menace" in the chorus

early 00s i think, with a female rapper for a part, and male rapper, and the chorus was "menace". in like a special voice, like edited ... chipmunk but not fully chipmunk, like higher pitch :P — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.157.127.68 (talk) 20:40, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I looked around, but didn't find any good candidates. Do you remember any other words from the song, even if it's just a single word out of context? Or what the song was about? Was it on the radio or just something from a cd? Is it from the US; I found a few songs around that time using menace in the chorus that are rap, but are not America (they don't have two singers though...).Phoenixia1177 (talk) 04:10, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"so tell me what you want, I'll give you what you want" or something like that! was also said often I think :( I don't really know what it was about & it was on the radio.. it was kind of old, so late90s - early 00s. Yeah it's a US song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.157.127.68 (talk) 09:49, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure it's not "Wannabe" by the Spice Girls? --TammyMoet (talk) 10:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I looked around, but couldn't find anything. I did various google searches quoting different parts of the phrases provided, adding various years from 1998 to 2003 in; also tried with, and without, "radio" and variants of "featuring" (to get songs with two+ rappers). Also tried the same approach using "site:" to search a few popular lyrics sites, still nothing. Finally, spent about an hour with variations on [3] and [4] and [5] (all useful sites for this type of thing), still nothing. Of course, it may just be bad luck; and, depending on how accurate your memory is, I saw about 15 songs that maybe could fit (some with two male rappers, or from 93-94, or with menace not in the chorus, etc.) Is it possible that you misheard the word "menace", could it be something else? Is "menace" the entire chorus, or just in the chorus? Anything else you remember? After looking around, now I'm curious:-) If you get a solution please let me know; you might want to try one of the sites I mentioned. Good Luck:-)Phoenixia1177 (talk) 14:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Aww. :( It's not spice girls :/ & sadly I can't remember much more :( I'll let you know if i find it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.157.127.68 (talk) 16:22, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

June 23

From a global perspective, a mainstream film is any film from Hollywood. Do you agree?

Mainstream films are films that are distributed to movie theaters which exhibit wide release films. However, the definition of a mainstream film can vary by country. For example, a mainstream film from China wouldn't be considered a mainstream film in India. But from a global perspective, mainstream films could be defined as Hollywood films, because it is these films which make up the majority of the most widely distributed films in the world. This would make Hollywood films the paradigm for mainstream films worldwide.

If it's not released in or at least imported into America, it's an obscure film.

Here's a quote I read somewhere that will sum up what I'm saying: "Hollywood farts, whole world takes notice; film-makers elsewhere discover life on Mars, doesn't even make the back page." Do you agree with this? Mattdillon87 (talk) 05:45, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What you're saying is true, but the reference desk is for answering factual questions. Please ask these types of questions somewhere else. Resolved. Rebel Yeh (talk) 06:27, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved
Huh? Resolved? Because one (1) person agrees, without any references to support them? I disagree, fwiw. There are various Hollywood films that are definitely not mainstream. Lots of "art house" movies, for example. -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 07:44, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The way the term Mainstream is described, I would think in this case it would be films released by "mainstream" studios, which presumably exist in many countries, and certainly Bollywood should also qualify. Shouldn't it? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots15:15, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Plane used in World War Z

Hi,

In the film "World War Z", what plane is used by Brad Pitt and team to fly to South Korea? It looks similar to a C-130 Hercules, but does not look like an exact match ? Gulielmus estavius (talk) 10:28, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen the film, but assuming that you mean the aircraft at 1:59 on this trailer, it looks to me like an Antonov An-12 (note the tail-gun turret). Alansplodge (talk) 13:50, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fur Elise

Please refer to the 25th measure of Beethoven's Fur Elise. I am trying to master this beautiful piece. At the beginning of the measure there are two notes (F & A) connected by a double bar (double beam). These notes are printed in such a way that they look at least twice as small as the rest of the notes. The next note (C) is of normal thickness. What does it mean (such notes of diminished size)? How does one play them?

Thanks, - Alex — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.52.14.15 (talk) 16:58, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Also if anyone could show me how to mark the question "RESOLVED" I would appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.52.14.15 (talk) 17:00, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps those notes in Für Elise are grace notes.—Wavelength (talk) 17:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, - Alex — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.52.14.15 (talk) 17:29, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They indeed are grace notes - specifically, they're appoggiaturas. Note the bass line, which has six semiquavers, making up the three beats of the 3/8 time signature. In the treble line, we have the grace notes (which are before the down beat), a crotchet (which is on the down beat), a dotted semiquaver, and a demisemiquaver - the grace notes aren't included in the count for the measure. Incidentally, use of the "Resolved" template on the Ref Desks isn't encouraged (although it's not forbidden) - it's really intended for the various Dispute resolution pages. However, you _should_ sign your posts, by adding four tildes (~~~~). Tevildo (talk) 17:34, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The article "Ü" has information about keyboarding the German umlaut u.
Wavelength (talk) 18:32, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both Tevildo & Wavelength for very useful comments.

Thanks, - Alex174.52.14.15 (talk) 19:42, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]