Commons:Deletion requests/Images of Lviatour

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• Upload Log http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=upload&user=Lviatour&limit=1000
• Gallery http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/Gallery.php?wikifam=commons.wikimedia.org&img_user_text=Lviatour&max=250 et al

Images of Lviatour are improperly licensed. Unless his template Template:LviatourCredit is moved to userspace and substed in all cases, it and all it tags (all images of Lviatour) should be deleted.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 01:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Je ne comprend pas bien l'anglais et je ne comprend donc pas ce qui est reproché à mon travail.Je suis désemparé, vous voulez supprimer l'ensemble de mon travail (des années! Si j'ai bien compris vous voulez supprimer la totalité de mon travail à cause d'une image dans mon template? Pourtant, je lui ai attribué toutes les licences libres voulues? Cette photo est ma propriété, je ne comprend pas le problème? Pouvez vous m'aider à corriger le problème sans devoir modifier ou supprimer l'ensemble de mes images? --Luc Viatour 09:06, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• English: I does not include/understand well English and I thus does not include/understand what is reproached my work. If I included/understood well you please remove the totality of my work because of an image in my template? However, I allotted all the desired free licences to him? Is this photograph my property, I does not include/understand the problem? --Luc Viatour 09:06, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(answer) Image deletion warning

I English does not include/understand well. And I does not include/understand what does not go in my image. You want to remove all my work why? --Luc Viatour 09:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[1][reply]

Please see Commons:Village pump/Archive/2007Feb#User-specific_licenses_and_categories, in which the requirements are spelled out: they must be substed and must not "impose any further restrictions on use" or "do funky things with licensing".   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 09:32, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps did not you understand my intention in asking that I be informed when using my pictures. It is no obligation to anyone to inform me on the use of my pictures. However I just mention that I appreciate to know when they are used. Just for my personal satisfaction. Is this the reason why you submit me under deletion?

Thank you --Luc Viatour 09:51, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, that is not the reason. There are multiple reasons I nominated this template and the images it tags, according to Commons:User-specific galleries, templates and categories policy:

• This user-specific template incorporates two standard license templates {{GFDL}} and {{cc-by-sa-2.5,2.0,1.0}} via template {{self2|GFDL|cc-by-sa-2.5,2.0,1.0}}. Per Commons:User-specific galleries, templates and categories policy#Regarding licenses, 'if the user-specific template incorporates a standard license template, the user-specific template must be subst:ed in use.'
• This user-specific template is in template namespace, not in user namespace as a user subpage. Per Commons:User-specific galleries, templates and categories policy#Templates, 'Users are welcome to create user-specific templates in order to standardise the information they produce on their image pages. Such templates must exist as user subpages rather than in the template namespace, e.g. "User:Example/Template" or "User:Example/Info".'

  — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 10:12, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be able to explain me and help me in changing this specification for the whole lot of my pictures at once? I wish this is possible, isn't it? --Luc Viatour 10:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please show some Wikilove ! I guess proposing this template for deletion is not the most appropriate way to request a template change ! Jeff, you have to understand that this procedure is very suprising, in particular for people who do not speak well English. A message on the user talk page is IMHO much more efficient.

Maybe Jeff you did not realise that Luc Viatour has contributed an enormous amount of his work to COmmons, that these are indeed freely licensed, and that many of his images are actually Featured Images ? Is this how you treat our best contributors ? THis RfD is, I think, completely pointless and I would really like to cancel it all. le Korrigan →bla 11:00, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What is "the most appropriate way to request a template change"? A bot could theoretically make all the necessary changes for all three "Images of" deletion requests I filed today, plus Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Fcb981c. I see that Luc Viatour has contributed many beautiful images and much time to Commons; the big problem is that at present, he could change his licensing in an instant by making one change to Template:LviatourCredit like this one, and such a change would not be reflected in the edit histories of his images. That situation must not be allowed to continue.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 11:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep Let's assume good faith here. I'll take care of adding license templates to the images carrying this template and keep the wish for the author to be notified of use alive. Cheers! Siebrand 11:19, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Siebrand. I'm sorry about angering and alienating good contributors. I was trying to help clean up the template namespace and at the same time reduce the possibility of mass unlogged license changes. I'm also sorry I didn't start with postings to user talk pages.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 11:43, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Jeff, leave others the freedom to design their themplates and stop making good contributors angry. This deletion request has no validity. You want to become an admin once? You can be shure I will oppose then! --Ikiwaner 11:27, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Let's not have a heated personal debate here, please. Siebrand 11:36, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, Siebrand.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 11:43, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry about angering and alienating good contributors. I was trying to help clean up the template namespace and at the same time reduce the possibility of mass unlogged license changes. I'm also sorry I didn't start with postings to user talk pages.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 11:43, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I explained Luc the problem, which should be remedied soon. Jeff, do post to user talk page next time; such massive deletion requests cannot but bewilder or anger contributors. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 11:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Given Jastrow's reply above, I am withdrawing my nomination. I'm sorry for any inconvenience.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 12:06, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, sorry for having over-reacted myself. Hopefully this will get sorted peacefully now :-) le Korrigan →bla 12:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I accept your apology, and I'd like to move on. I would close this discussion, but I haven't the authority.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 13:16, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kept, nomination withdrawn. Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]