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== [[:Image:5210 - Near Eigergletscher Station.JPG]] ==
Sometime before tomorrow I am going to oppose this image at QI.  The reason is that at least for these last few days, I have been trying to keep images from being deposited wherever QIBot puts unassessed images and because the light on the rocks is too harsh in the image, maybe a few other things.

I enjoyed reading the wikipage about the piles of rocks though and I was wondering if you know what purpose this pile had.  While sorting through the QI nominations, I kind of enjoyed putting the ancient pylon thing into the Optics gallery along with the more modern stuff that is already there.

To me, a marker for a grave site or an accident is a different kind of interesting than a marker for astronomical purposes or early attempts at surveying.  In the upper peninsula of Michigan, the last time I went through there, a bunch of hippies had been there a little before then and there were piles of rocks (not this intricate) all around that they had built.  Those were cool as well, but for a different reason than the ones I mentioned earlier.

I am asking this about that image because I was going to place it on the article but it is not as good as others that are there, unless you could honestly report what its purpose for existing was. -- [[User:CarolSpears|carol]] 04:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

:Alas, there's nothing too fancy for it: the cairn's purpose is just for wayfinding during snowy conditions.  Some of the rocks have red/white and blue/white markings sprayed on them for novice and expert trails, respectively.  Of course, when it snows, the markings disappear -- so the rocks serve as the guide signs. Cheers! --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 05:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

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==[[:Image:2311-2314_-_München_-_Neues_Rathaus.jpg]]==
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== [[:Image:1173a4a - Obertraun - Stormwater Management - equalized.JPG]] ==
Your painted versions of this image were a nice surprise when looking at the nominated one. [[:Image:1173a4a - Obertraun - Stormwater Management - equalized.JPG]] starts to look like the illustrations in my elementary school textbooks and early reading books (most from late 1950s and early 1960s).

That was nice to find there! -- [[User:CarolSpears|carol]] 10:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks! --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 05:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

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==Serbia/Kosovo imagery==
[http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=363&year=2007 look] declared Kosovo as a region which is not free. [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:European_Union_neighbour_states_by_freedom.png here] These are old maps and she has to upload a new ones [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Map_of_Serbia_%28municipalities%29.PNG here] and [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Administrativna_mapa_srbije-bac.PNG here] Greetings --[[User:Cp6|Cp6]] 00:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

:I am not entirely sure what point you are trying to make. --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 01:01, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

::Let me try to explain it the way I see it: He's been trying to revert [[User:Hoshie]]'s changes to a number of world and European maps introducing Kosovo (per the precedent set by partially-recognised Palestine and Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, which are also shown as distinct territories), and one of these changes was to the Freedom in the World map. While Kosovo was rated as an occupied territory in 2007, the newly independent Republic of Kosovo has not yet been rated, that's why it should be in grey; he keeps reverting to a version of his which shows Kosovo as part of Serbia and in red. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 07:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

==[[:Image:1847_-_Salzburg_-_Mirabellgarten_-_Flowers.JPG]]==
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==[[:Image:1852_-_Salzburg_-_Mirabellgarten_-_Roses.JPG]]==
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==[[:Image:1464_-_Nationalpark_Hohe_Tauern_-_Flowers.JPG]]==
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== Why all the redundant cats? ==
Hi,
I have noticed you are adding species categories to a lot of plant Images. Images, which are already in their respective species galleries in accordance with the guidelines in [[COM:TOL]]. What is the point of also adding it to a species category? A lot of renaming of species go on these years due to genetic research. If each image gets a species categpry instead of only having it in a species gallery, the amount of work to do if a scientific name is changed is much larger; each image would need a cat change. When they are in a gallery only the gallery needs to be moved. For me it seems like you are adding a lot of redundant information, which increases the later maintenance burden. Cheers, -- [[User:Slaunger|Slaunger]] 05:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

:No prob -- I thought I was helping out, but I didn't realise flora and fauna changed names much (actually, I didn't think they did at all).  I'd think a bot could take care of any significant moves; but I'll not toil with whatever [[COM:TOL]] has arranged and I'll just stick to the genus from now on. Cheers! --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 01:04, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

== Answered : [[User talk:Yug/Camera]]==
You have an answer on this page. [[Special:Contributions/220.135.4.212|220.135.4.212]] 06:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

==[[:Image:3894_-_Gornergrat_-_Flowers.JPG]]==
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==[[:Image:4178_-_Thun_-_Schloss_Thun_-_Flowers.JPG]]==
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==[[:Image:4519_-_Bern_-_Rosengarten_-_Flower.JPG]]==
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==[[:Image:5202_-_Near_Eigergletscher_Station_-_Flowers.JPG]]==
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==[[:Image:5852_-_Schynige_Platte_-_Flower.JPG]]==
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==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|Image:3766 - Gornergrat - Aster alpinus.JPG|''Aster alpinus'' on Gornergrat, Zermatt, CH --[[User:Thisisbossi|Thisisbossi]] 04:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)|Good quality. Do you have shots of the full plant too? --[[User:Dschwen|Dschwen]] 04:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)<br>Alas, it never occurred to me at the time; but I'll certainly keep that in mind for my next trip! --[[User:Thisisbossi|Thisisbossi]] 12:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|Image:4220 - Thun - Petunia.JPG|Petunia in Thun, CH --[[User:Thisisbossi|Thisisbossi]] 04:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)|Not as good as the Aster, but ok. Same question: Any shots of the full plant (for encyclopedic value)? --[[User:Dschwen|Dschwen]] 04:43, 27 March 2008 (UTC)}}

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{{QICpromoted|Image:3818 - Riffelberg - Matterhorn viewed from Gornergratbahn.JPG|Matterhorn viewed from the Gornergratbahn near Riffleberg, Zermatt, CH. --[[User:Thisisbossi|Thisisbossi]] 00:57, 26 March 2008 (UTC)|a bit hazy, but maybe unavoidable [[User:FRZ|FRZ]] 19:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)}}

==[[:Image:1729 - Salzburg - Stiftskirche St Peter - Flowers.JPG|''Hydrangea'']]==
I am not a specialist for giving advice and you make very fine pictures, but this one of yours didn't convince me. I think light was not really with you this very day, because with a higher level I think DOF would have be better. Also with this size of pixels you may choose not to be so close an then to re-crop afterwards, DOF is generally better with distance. Furthermore, for real macrophoto I am not the one able to give technical explainations. Sorry. Cheers. --[[User:B.navez|B.navez]] 03:00, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

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{{QICpromoted|Image:4524 - Bern - Rosengarten - Hemerocallis.JPG|''Hemerocallis'' in the Rosengarten Bern, CH --[[User:Thisisbossi|Thisisbossi]] 04:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)| A 'classic' flower picture, but meets QI standards. -- [[User:MJJR|MJJR]] 21:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)}}

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{{QICpromoted|Image:4890bricon - Mürren-Gimmelwald - Centaurea.JPG|''Centaurea'' between Mürren & Gimmelwald, CH --[[User:Thisisbossi|Thisisbossi]] 04:27, 11 April 2008 (UTC) |Excellent example of colour contrast, DOF is OK. --[[User:Ikiwaner|Ikiwaner]] 18:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC)}}

==Circle linking==
To be really "linked", the circles should in some way go visibly over or under each other at their intersections, so as to make some form of knot-theoretical link (see http://katlas.org/wiki/The_Thistlethwaite_Link_Table for a list of knot-theoretical links).  If there's no visible evidence of over/under crossing, then you have overlapping circles, but not linked circles.  A Venn diagram is not generally an example of linked circles... [[User:AnonMoos|AnonMoos]] 02:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Comment ==
''Such a category would remain quite underpopulated unless something happened such that we should have more than one person in that category... which would prompt a rewrite of quite a number of other articles.'' I liked that comment [[image:face-grin.svg|24px]]. {{no|Du har et imponerende antall Babel-bokser, men siden du er user-da-2 bør du kunne legge til user-no-1 også}}{{en|If you did not understand the previous sentence in Norwegian you can safely ignore it}}
Regards, [[User:Finnrind|Finn Rindahl]] 14:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Help needed with the [[Commons:Valued images|Valued images]] project ==

As you may have seen, this project is going live for nominations on '''1 June, 2008 at 0:00 UTC'''.  Before then, there are a few things to be finished off, and any help you can give will be welcome. The latest discussion is at [[Commons talk:Valued image candidates#Open action items for Valued images|Commons talk:Valued images candidates#Open action items for Valued images]].

When the project launches publicly on 1 June, it will need reviewers who are able to jump in quickly and provide prompt feedback.   During those critical first few weeks it will be important to have a decent number of reviewers who are prepared to put in the effort to make sure the first nominations are well-reviewed, as that will set the standard for the future. 

Would you help, please, with the final tasks now, and also pledge your help with some reviewing on 1 June and thereafter?    --[[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] 17:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Red Light Cameras ==

Hola, contesto en español porque mi inglés es muy malo: creo que tienes razón en lo que observas. De todos modos, he hecho [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Red_light_cameras&diff=next&oldid=11777380 un nuevo ajuste], que creo atiende a over-categorization y a [[:Category:Objects on roads]]. Si vieras algo mal, por favor, corrígelo. Saludos, --[[User:Tano4595|Tano4595]] 03:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

== user-editable CC template? ==

Hi, 
after a few talks on the theme on COM:VP, and after being convinced on advantages of "CC-by" towards "Attribution", I started to design a more intelligent user-editable CC-template (well, the developer+programming-work would be done by Rocket000). 

I now learn that '''CC and Attribution ARE the same,''' such template therefore would not be of any use.

In case you're interested, I please invite you to talk on 
[[User talk:WeHaWoe/TestSite#Looks like bad luck for the project 8(]]
for kind of brainstorming. Best, Wolfgang, [[User:WeHaWoe|WeHaWoe]] 09:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

== Geography by state ==

I just spotted that you are removing a lot [[:Category:Geography of the United States]] from a number of ''Category:Geography of STATE'' items.  I'm just curious as to why... it's common practice to have such a tree of categories.  Would [[:Category:Geography of the United States by state]] be preferable within [[:Category:Geography of the United States]]? --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 01:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

:Hola, aprovecho tu es-3 para dejar de lado mi pobre manejo del idioma inglés (si no se entiende lo que escribo, por favor, hazlo saber). Respecto de tu pregunta: [[:Category:States of the United States]] pertenece a [[:Category:Geography of the United States]]. Por tanto, [[:Category:Alabama]], etc., son de hecho pertenecientes a "Geography of the United States", y agregarlo una vez más resulta en un problema de [[Commons:Categories#Over-categorization|Over-categorization]].

:Respecto de la otra pregunta, veo que existe [[:Category:Categories by state of the United States]], supongo que es usada en los casos que corresponde.

:Saludos, --[[User:Tano4595|Tano4595]] 13:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

<small>
:Hello, I assume that your es-3 will assist with my poor command of English (if you do not understand what I write, please let me know).  Regarding your question: [[:Category:States of the United States]] belongs to [[:Category:Geography of the United States]].  Therefore, [[:Category:Alabama]], etc., in fact belong to "Geography of the United States" and adding it again becomes a problem of over-categorisation.

:With regard to the other question, I see [[:Category:Categories by state of the United States]], which I suppose is used in such situations.

:Sincerely, --[[User:Tano4595|Tano4595]] 13:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
</small>

== Parking buildings / NZ ==

Hello Thisisbossi - if you find your changes reverted, please look at the edit summaries, they may explain why. In the specific case, I in the first instance mainly reverted your changes because you dumped three pictures into "multi-storey" when they were in fact a single-storey car park building (there is a cinema above, and not more parking, as I explained in the edit summaries). As by that time, you hadn't deleted the car parking buildings cat yet (which would fit perfectly as a generic category containing both multi-storey and NON-multi-storey car parking buildings) I moved them back. Next time I look, you again (!) move those three pictures into multi-storey, and delete the in-between cat. Since you were rather thorough, I couldn't just undo that, so I moved them into car parks in NZ this time. I still feel that a category covering BOTH multi-storey and non-multi-storey car parking is sensible, but in any case, please don't change those three images all over again. Regards and happy editing - [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson|talk]]) 22:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

:Ahh, I see your point.  I'll see about bringing back the car park buildings categories to fit them in such that they can encompass both single and multi-story structures.  There was one photo in particular which was clearly a single-story structure and I was quite confused as to how to categorise it... your suggestion would work well.  However, do you think it should be ''car park buildings'' which includes the single-storey carparks and is parent to the categories for multi-storey, garages, and carports; or would you recommend a distinct ''single-storey carparks''?  Right now I think I'm leaning toward the latter... it'd probably be easier to scale in the future, if more single-storey media is added.  I'll see if I can work it in tonight.  Cheers!  --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 23:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
::I'm leaning towards the former, as a hierachical structure is more typical of Commons (and multi-storey car parks ARE a subcat of "just car park buildings"). However, I would not oppose it if you still think the other option is better. [[User:Ingolfson|Ingolfson]] ([[User talk:Ingolfson|talk]]) 11:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:::I tried implementing the former, but it necessitated an additional branch which I didn't personally feel to be necessary... basically it placed all the car park structures into the ''buildings'' category, leaving open car parks all by itself.  It just seemed like a bit too much branching out with the categories.  How's it look now? --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 21:04, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


==Village Pump - Summary of responses==

Here is a summary of responses based on the above. A * signifies that I interpolated the vote here based on the response above. Please remove the * if you concur with my interpolation. User:Thisisbossi

::I have no idea what this means so I can't remove the * on my name or figure out why it is there and under that heading????? [[User:WayneRay|WayneRay]] ([[User talk:WayneRay|talk]]) 13:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)WayneRay

:::Based on the responses people had written, I attempted to place them into the pro-category or pro-gallery group.  However, in your case, I was not quite sure which stance you were taking (if any).  Therefore, feel free to move your name into whichever group you feel more accurately fits your viewpoint.  Cheers! --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 18:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

==One way or another voting==
I am very unhappy with the one way or the other voting.  Given a situation of total freedom (within some license and software restrictions); like "Anyone can upload images" and "Anyone can edit" -- I am uncertain about the reason the problem has been reduced to a one way or another solution.

The problem that created the situation in which it is being discussed is that a few people were disembling categories or dismembering them (whatever language you prefer).  To have the actions of not more than five or six people reduce an intelligent group to having to "vote" one way or another and no inbetween where those people are required to cease their activity is something I cannot fathom.  I am decided on that -- I think that neither galleries nor categories should be dissembled.  It is not an indecision, as I am very decided about that.

To me, to have a vote which is strictly one way or the other because a few people were not tolerant, is to also answer intolerance with intolerance.

I am very decided about things there. -- [[User:CarolSpears|carol]] ([[User talk:CarolSpears|talk]]) 22:34, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

:But I am not sure what it was that you were proposing as an alternative.  Note that I am not advocating eliminating galleries; I'm only seeking to have TOL brought into conformance with what is already policy everywhere else on Commons. --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 23:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

::I wrote a web log about my campus.  How they had made sidewalks and sometimes those sidewalks were used, but paths were made where the efficient way to get through the area to the destination was.  I don't think that the people who insist on using the sidewalks should be able to move people off from the paths and the inverse -- people on paths should not move the sidewalk people to the path.  I was going to write a paper for my technical writing class (an arguement or something) that was in favor of waiting with making the sidewalks until the paths were made....

::I had two people disembling my categories and not telling me that they were going to do this.  Today, that number of people is three.  I want them to not do that.  In an arguement about "the" in the category name or not, the more logical solution is to put both categories in place (neither with templates saying that "You Have to Use the Other") and see which category gets more populated.  I would opt first for no arguement -- to let the person making the category tree do that without interference.  Unless there is a ''real'' problem.  The arguements I have seen about English grammar often end with insisting that one or another version be used.

::The world is complicated.  The earth is large and people on it are small in comparison.  The differences between people and all of the other things are incredible in their multitudes.  I suggest that additional complication not be added and that it doesn't ''need'' to be added even. 

::Two people were disembing my categories.  I wanted that to stop. -- [[User:CarolSpears|carol]] ([[User talk:CarolSpears|talk]]) 00:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Thanks, though I'm still at a bit of a loss as to how that applies to galleries. --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 01:41, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

::::Two user names here, instead of not allowing them to disemble categories; a vote for one or the other was established.  I am very decided.  The undoing of an individuals efforts should not happen without an equal attempt by both to communicate.  This vote is one paintball (template pasting) software vs. another template pasting (paintball) software. 

::::It was a completely different issue that ignited it. -- [[User:CarolSpears|carol]] ([[User talk:CarolSpears|talk]]) 01:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

== plants in any town or country category ==

Such Categories are something what makes no sense. That plants you take fotos grow everywhere. why other user create similar categories is because they take fotos of plants native in that country (Endemism). plants cultivated widespread like yours dont need a location, that are cultivars. please stop that kind of categories. greatings. --[[User:BotBln|BotBln]] ([[User talk:BotBln|talk]]) 12:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:Thisisbossi leave the TOL people the Plants of galleries and categories and put your photographs into Flora of categories.  This is the reason I do that; the TOL people have something very important they are doing and do not want others messing with their Plants of categories.  Heh, I am going to start calling them the Diff TrOLs (Dschwen has a request to stop pasting diffs on his talk page....) -- [[User:CarolSpears|carol]] ([[User talk:CarolSpears|talk]]) 12:57, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

::I'm just trying to satisfy the '''where''' portion of [[Commons:Categories]].  I'll use "Flora of...". --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 22:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:::To try and avoid edit warring as much as possible (since I know the two of us aren't the only people this happens to), I've reopened a previous discussion at [[Commons:Village_pump#Plants_in_xxx|the Village Pump]]. Your input would be greatly appreciated.  Cheers! --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 00:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

::::I did what I could.  I am in literally in a wrong wrong wrong situation where I am located on this planet (speaking of native and not).  It seems that any way that I attempt describe my situation gets used against me even.  I refuse to "clean up" after the child who is making a lot of money, yet can do a fraction of the things I can and have done.  The child does not clean up after himself so to make the landlady happy, a cleaning service has been contracted.  They were here yesterday (I clean up after myself mostly).  The ants that were in the building which I moved to outside where they could eat happily and not be a problem are gone (and their food that I put there).  A new variety of ants has entered the building -- since the people were here yesterday.  These bite and are not interested in just eating.

::::I have hundreds of things like this that happen here, I tell this one.

::::My option to not get a job that did not pay me enough to live where I was living (once again) when the circumstances occurred that moved me here was one that perhaps I should have opted for earlier in my life.  To have a bunch of children inform me that I was not qualified to do the things that I had done and to be this age and fairly successful in the world of capitalism (I was at the least good enough on my "day" jobs) and not be allowed into the academic world due to not completing a degree (but what I did complete....) and to only have one year where my income was the same as my mothers.  My mom, her husband had to insist that she complete her high school degree.  A school bus driver (arguably one of the most socialistic jobs available in this country) lecturing me about finances -- she learned in my childhood that finding a new "dad" for her kids was probably not a good idea to conduct in the high school as I attended it!!!!!

::::When I start to think about what is wrong here, where I am physically and with all of these computer environments -- my mind goes back to some of these problems way back.  I am sorry about this spew here.  Not as sorry as I am about the ants that are biting me now as I am in this world I do not like, that was made by telling me I was not good enough for things I had already done.

::::The strong sense I have that I am working alone on anything I work on since I have been here -- then seeing it all always get used elsewhere fairly successfully.  This Flora of stuff is much the same.  I did not work alone to get here is one of the big big problems with this situation.  Not paying qualified people enough money to live where they work is a really really big problem.  I would have no problem watching/seeing stuff I helped to build get used successfully elsewhere; it is the nature of the GPL and what I thought was great about it.  I was successful in the other world though as well.  My exclusion from it is extremely suspicious to me, especially when overlayed on the aloneness of my last five years here in California and the situation that forced me to be here.

::::This text is a result of how difficult it is for me to try to answer the single problem I am asked to look at and keep my self and my problems out of it. And the damn biting ants -- I clean up after myself; those people are not entering this building because of me. -- [[User:CarolSpears|carol]] ([[User talk:CarolSpears|talk]]) 01:46, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::Maybe it's just me, and I mean this in the nicest way possible; but I have nooooo idea what you are talking about :P --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 04:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::http://mmmaybe.gimp.org <-- Me and my little team of people had this almost completed in 2003.  I put the mechanism that makes the site (which is much more impressive than the site appears) onto a software versioning system run by what should have been a safe linux software host (http://www.gnome.org) and started to play on a wiki trying to get the funds and interest up so that I could meet the people I had worked with.  Since that time, I watch web sites like flickr and deep down I know that whether or not the software that we made to make that first web site was used to make it, it could have.  Additionally, there is a tool within the web site mechanism which is what was needed to turn sodipodi into inkscape.  Software can be a little like children, perhaps.  I feel like when I see flickr and inkscape in particular that they are "my children", but I have no way to prove it.  I am really proud of them also.  Both of those softwares are cool.  Flickr has a pain for an interface, but I have a web site already so my opinions are not needed there -- many seem to enjoy it and find use for it and it actually "works" with good ease.  Inkscape is a great application.  Shortly after they released gimp-1.2.3, Photoshop released Photoshop7.  This version of Photoshop included many many things from Adobe Illustrator (2002, I think).  I mentioned at that time it was kind of like feeling an earthquake in the software world or a little wave of pressure being felt by a powerful corporation.  Inkscape is to GIMP what Illustrator is to Photoshop.

::::::That is all from 2001-2003.  The last five years have been filled with fuzzy language about food and crap like the TOL discussions.  Biting ants.  Money and credit given to the person who is afraid of the dark, very little life experience and not to the people in the project who did the work. -- [[User:CarolSpears|carol]] ([[User talk:CarolSpears|talk]]) 04:52, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::::"Release candidate" phrase being used on that web site.  We never ever used that language.  The internet should have been beautiful. -- [[User:CarolSpears|carol]] ([[User talk:CarolSpears|talk]]) 05:04, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::::An apology for all of this.  Almost 6 years of extremely unreal problems; there should be a problem if I did not have a problem. -- [[User:CarolSpears|carol]] ([[User talk:CarolSpears|talk]]) 08:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Wow ==

wow podes hablar en un monton de idiomas, enseñame ingles :-P xD --[[User:Pablo 323|The Punisher]] 04:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

:Soy un [[:en:Jack of all trades, master of none|hombre de todos los oficios, maestro de ninguno]]. :) --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 21:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Permission to copy image of "Ogre Fountain" in Bern ==

Mr. Bossi,
I would like to ask your permission to use your photograph of the "Kindlifresserbrunnen" in Bern to illustrate a scholarly book I am publishing with the University of Delaware Press. The book is called THE OGRE'S PROGRESS: IMAGES OF THE OGRE IN MODERN AND CONTEMPORARY FRENCH FICTION. The fountain is important in Jacques Chessex's 1973 novel L'OGRE (A FATHER'S LOVE), which I analyze in my book. The photo would appear in the interior of the book. This is not a money-making venture with a trade press; it will be a hardcover book sold mostly to libraries.
It is a beautiful photograph!
Sincerely,
[[User:Jkrell|Jonathan Krell]]

:Certainly, you are welcome to use [[:Image:4377 - Bern - Kindlifresserbrunnen am Kornhausplatz.JPG|that image]].  The majority of my images are licensed under cc-by-sa-2.5.  What does that mean?  The '''''cc''''' and '''''2.5''''' parts refer to the license name & version: ''Creative Commons 2.5''.  The '''''by''''' refers to attributing the author of the work, that is: me.  The '''''sa''''' notes that the image itself must be relicensed under cc-by-sa-2.5.  A user-friendly explanation of the cc-by-sa-2.5 license is provided [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ here], and the [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/legalcode full text of legalese] is here.  So in the end, somewhere in the book you would denote that the image is "''Provided by Andrew Bossi, cc-by-sa-2.5''", "''cc-by-sa-2.5 Andrew Bossi''", or something along those lines.
:You can make as much money as you wish (indeed, I hope you earn plenty!) -- ''all'' media hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation is permitted for commercial use.  Of course, if you should ever becoming a millionaire, do keep us in mind :) All I really ask is that people let me know when they use my images, solely because I'm curious -- it's not even required to let me know.  Cheers!  --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 22:17, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Ogre Fountain ==

Thanks!
Jonathan Krell

==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|Image:6274 - Luzern - Verkehrshaus - Lamborghini Miura.JPG|Lamborghini Miura at the Verkehrshaus, Luzern, CH --[[User:Thisisbossi|Thisisbossi]] 01:41, 26 July 2008 (UTC)|The best picture of this type of car we currently have. No people standing in the back. Sharpness OK, but the lighting could be better. --[[User:Ikiwaner|Ikiwaner]] 10:33, 26 July 2008 (UTC)}}
==Quality Image Promotion==
{{QICpromoted|Image:4268 - Thun - Obere Schleuse - Lantana.JPG|''Lantana camara'', Thun, CH --[[User:Thisisbossi|Thisisbossi]] 11:24, 29 July 2008 (UTC)| Good picture --[[User:Simonizer|Simonizer]] 19:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)}}
{{QICpromoted|Image:2008 05 17 - Euphorbia pulcherrima 05a.JPG|''Euphorbia pulcherrima'' in Laurel, MD, USA --[[User:Thisisbossi|Thisisbossi]] 01:41, 26 July 2008 (UTC) | a different crop would make it a exciting picture. But quality is ok --[[User:Simonizer|Simonizer]] 18:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)}}

== "Fastnacht" and "Fastnachtskuchen" ==

Hi Thisisbossi! I saw your pictures of Fastnachts, for example [[:Image:Fasnacht 2c.JPG|Fasnacht 2c.JPG]] or [[:Image:Fasnacht 1d.JPG|Fasnacht 1d.JPG]], and your German descriptions "Puderzuckerfastnacht" or "Fastnachten". I think in German the word "Fastnacht" only means carnival; and I asked my dictionary, it has the same opinion like me. I'm afraid that there is no German word for Pennsylvanian Fastnachts (if I am wrong, please tell me). I never saw a Fastnacht before. I changed your German discription of the Fastnachts in "Fastnachtskuchen". This word means sweet baked goods served on Fastnacht Day. "Fastnachtskuchen" is written nowhere else, but a German will understand. --[[User:Stefan Knauf|Stefan Knauf]] ([[User talk:Stefan Knauf|talk]]) 19:49, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

==Enea Bossi==

I am a photo editor with RiseUp Publications. We are working on an article on Enea Bossi and I've noticed that you have posted several images of him and the plane he invented. It would be wonderful to have the opportunity to publish one or two of your images to illustrate the article. You can contact me offline at jdenesha@usariseup.com

Julie
{{unsigned|Usariseup|15:19, 22 August 2008 (UTC)}}

:Certainly, the photos are licensed under cc-by-sa-2.5.  The '''cc''' means ''Creative Commons'', which is the name of the license.  '''by''' means that you have to ''attribute the author'' -- in this case "Bossi family photos" would work for all but one of the images in [[:Category:Enea Bossi, Sr.|this category]].  The one exception is [[:Image:Philadelphia - Franklin Institute 01 - Budd BB-1.JPG|this]], where the author would be me, Andrew Bossi.  The '''sa''' means ''share alike'', that is the image must be licensed under cc-by-sa-2.5 in your work.  So basically you'd caption or footnote each image with something like ''cc-by-sa-2.5, Bossi family photos''. Just let me know if you have any additional questions.  I actually have a ''lot'' more photos of him & his works; I've just been busy uploading other images such that I haven't quite had time to scan in the photos.  Cheers! --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 01:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Geolocations on a pizza ? ==

A quote from (your favorite ?) discussion on [[Image talk:2007 04 25 - WWB 39.JPG]]: "It is a picture taken outside, so that a meaningful location can be given.". This one is not even taken outside... Besides, there is ''no way'' to justify putting a [[:Image:5327 - Grindelwald - Pizza.JPG|pizza]] or a [[:Image:4986 - Grindelwald - Hamurger mit Pommes Frites.JPG‎|hamburger]] on the map. It's just rediculous... - [[User:Erik Baas|Erik Baas]] ([[User talk:Erik Baas|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:01, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

:Cuisine, flowers, events, landscapes... all have places attributed to them. --<b>[[User:Thisisbossi|Bossi]]</b> (<small>[[User talk:Thisisbossi|talk]] • [[User:Thisisbossi/Gallery|gallery]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thisisbossi|contrib]]</small>) 22:37, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
::You repeat your self, I'll do the same: A pizza on the map ? It's just rediculous. - [[User:Erik Baas|Erik Baas]] ([[User talk:Erik Baas|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 22:40, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Hi there, I'd just say that maps of repartition for plants of for some typical foods may be useful, while geolocating transient items like most of the plants or food does not make sense to me: geolocation is a tool to retreive a physical instance of an object (geophysical object like a mountain or a lake, or long-term unmovable objects like buildings for instance...) for which its location is useful to understand its organization/existence.
:::A counter-example could be a specific specimen of plant, and/or extra-ordinary living individual like a very big/old/known tree in the middle of a vast desert.
:::Actually, the location is useful when it provides useful information to understand why the photographied item is important/has interest, in other words, to explicitely add context to a meaningful individual.
:::Best regards from France,
:::-- [[User:Alno|AlNo]] [[User talk:Alno|(discuter/talk/hablar/falar)]] 13:53, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Plants that are Cultivars growing in Parks and Gardens are there cultivated. How they look depends how some Person cultivate them. Country where they are planted have nearly no influence how the look like. The knowledge of the person who grow it has much more influence. so build a Category like Grown by Tim Smith or somethong like that, that make more sense ;-). [[:Category:Ornamental plants of the Tropics|Ornamental plants of the Tropics]], [[:Category:Ornamental plants of the Subtropics|Ornamental plants of the Subtropics]], or [[:Category:Ornamental plants of the Temperate Areas|Ornamental plants of the Temperate Areas]] would make sense, because plants of one of thats Areals normally cant be cultivated outdoor in one of the other Area, more or less. but in what country the picture is taken dont make sense, same like this bread or pizza eaten in Texas or Salzburg. --[[User:BotBln|BotBln]] ([[User talk:BotBln|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)