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== American League Owners photo==
Not much luck identifying them, I did manage to find a 1914 Reach Guide from the Smithsonian: https://archive.org/details/reachofficialame19141phil/page/n13/mode/2up ... There's a photo of all the owners on page 8, I think the one identified as Charles Sommers might be ES Minor from Washington. The photo above his matches 3 on the bottom (sitting) row, but I can't make out his name in the Reach guide; my guess is Nixey Callahan based on this eyebrows looking somewhat similar. [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:43, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
:I'm off to bed soon, here's the reddit post I made, the responses are slowly coming in. https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/osdwf1/wikipedia_photo/ [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:14, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
::Excellent, I also wrote SABR, but they rarely respond. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 03:17, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

== Dragsholm castle ==

In the note for Anders Örbom you are mentioning the destruction of Dragsholm castle and the battle of Seland. -That destruction actually happened around 1660 when the Swedes were leaving Denmark in the years after the Treaty of Roskilde. Have a read on [[da:Dragsholm Slot]]. -So what you are referring to as the battle of Seland in 1700 is probably [[en:Landing at Humlebæk]] which in the end resulted in the [[en:Peace of Travendal]]. -- [[User:Sturban|Sturban]] ([[User talk:Sturban|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:47, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

:[[en:Pskov|Pskov]] is Pleskow in archaic english and the "battle of Pitzur" would most probably be [[en:Battle of Petschora|Battle of Petschora]] -- [[User:Sturban|Sturban]] ([[User talk:Sturban|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:11, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
::And the "battle of Lakowitz" is probably the [[sv:Belägringen av Lachowicze|siege of Lachowicze]]. -- [[User:Sturban|Sturban]] ([[User talk:Sturban|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:24, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
* Thanks again! I will make the changes and merge the duplicates. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:36, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

== Yes, you "have brought this up ... before"  ==

Greetings Richard:  

Our paths have been crossing a bit of late, but I do not understand why you seem to feel a need to lecture me about Commons process.  I am a fifteen year contributor to Wikimedia Projects, administrator and bureaucrat, who has worked with deletions for a long time.  I do not think I am in need of the mini-lectures and specific directions to my behavior you have offered lately on some deletion nominations. <small>(E.g. [[Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Cadgepole]] Specifically <i>"If you can take the time to nominate these images, you can take a few seconds more and read the conditions to be entered into the public domain in the county of creation. I think if you are clever enough to recognize there is a problem with the attribution and license, and have enough time to spend nominating, you have enough time to look at the license parameters and fix the problem. I have brought this up with you before. --RAN (talk) 02:29, 19 January 2022 (UTC)"</i> [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Cadgepole&diff=622722620&oldid=622722098]) and others.</small>

"If you are clever enough" is not a particularly good reflection on the spirit of [[COM:AGF]] and not one that should be out in public as it only reflects badly on you. I do appreciate that you fixed the upload templates and licenses.  You could have then said "Keep: Licenses and source now fixed, they were PD-whatever" and skipped the drama. In that particular case, the uploader had claimed all his uploads as "own work" - none were - several deletions resulted.  I was hoping he would show up and I could help him learn how to do uploads that wouldn't get deleted.  He hasn't shown up to help. Instead, what I get was a not particularly polite barb from a fellow contributor. 

Most regular contributors are aware that Deletion Nominations are to discuss the issues with the images only. Lecturing the nominator of the deletion is outside the scope of the discussion, therefore I respectfully request that you consider the entire situation with the images first, then if you still feel like giving a lecture, then discuss your opinions of Commons procedure on the talk page of the person you feel needs is unaware.  It might be a good idea to read their page too, so you know if a lecture is really in order.  You might see something there that shows you why they do what they do - or not, but always read the talk page first!  I do recall your prior lectures, but I am sure you know 
*[[COM:EVID]] requires the Uploader provide the source and [[COM:L]] for each image and 
*Commons has categories for "speedy," "no source," "no license" and other speedy deletions. 

What you may not know is that I come across images while working in those categories and they fall into rough groups including: 

*I have deleted other parts of their upload galleries for problems.
*Others have deleted most of their galleries and just left the problem images in the categories for deletion for "someone else to fix."
*The uploader is new or inexperienced and think it is possible to save those images for the project instead of hitting "delete."  If I can just fix it with what I am given, I do. I spend a lot of time researching, adding sources, and changing licenses - sometimes doing the work after the images are "deleted" and restoring them.  
*I think the image can be saved, but I do not have sufficient information to confidently make changes, the data for which is required from the uploader under [[COM:EVID]], I nominate.   
*I think the uploader has potential and I wish to establish dialog to help them stay with the project in an effective manner. (This is the category which seems to offend you the most.) 

In addition to keeping procedural issues on the talk pages, I request you take a wholistic approach whenever you feel like lecturing me - or anyone else on the project - as to why we nominated images instead of just hitting the "delete" which was already earned by not abiding by the few simple rules at [[COM:EVID]].  Particularly in my case, I do not encounter images or uploaders until after they've been sent to some speedy process, so you can always assume that there is/was already a problem with their uploads.  I am sure you remember the new uploader who was so upset and challenged me to go after his other 50 uploads.  If you check the history of his uploads, I had fixed all of them except the ones which did not have enough information to fix. As in his case, I have found over the years, that sending something to deletion may occasionally result in the uploader reappearing and helping to save the images - some of them even learn the process along the way and become awesome contributors.  Unless you look, you have no idea of the history to the moment of the nomination - it would be better to come to my talk page and ask "why did you do that" than to lecture your opinion as fact on the nomination.  

My focus is not - and has never been - on "how many images can I delete" because I am more interested in saving the images which can be saved.  In other words, most of these were slam dunk deletes that I am hoping to save.  I am sorry you have a problem with saving images for which there is insufficient information - or incorrect information - provided by the uploader in the template, but please keep the procedurals to the talk pages and we can argue this all out forever without confusing new uploaders seeing people argue about pins with or without angels dancing on them.  As you are younger than me, I hope you understand the reference if not, please see en:wiki [[w|How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?]]  

Looking forward to future productive dialog on issues not personalities.  Cheers!  [[User:Ellin Beltz|Ellin Beltz]] ([[User talk:Ellin Beltz|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:28, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
:Your second warning on this topic is at [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:La porallée en 1230.jpg]].  [[User:Ellin Beltz|Ellin Beltz]] ([[User talk:Ellin Beltz|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:01, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

* '''Note''': I keep this message to show how angry people get when you challenge their deletions by pointing out the errors in their deletion argument. As of 2023 EugeneZelensko is facing sanctions for their frivolous deletion nominations that Ellin Beltz supported. Especially egregious is the use of the term "warning", implying that some punishment is intended in the future for disagreeing with her. People use the term "warning" as intimidation when they cannot win an argument by logic or persuasion. The nomination was for an engraving first made public in the year 1650, yet she still argued for deletion of the image.   --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:31, 22 December 2022 (UTC)-

== Explaining ==

Greetings:  I have been on the project for 15 years, the majority of that time actively in Commons.  I am sorry that you do not understand how the system can work to the advantage of saving images which some have marked for deletion.  That you continually act as if I am trying to have images deleted which instead I have taken from the Delete pile to try to save completely puzzles me.  We are on the same side here, we are trying to save every image which can be saved.  But you keep picking at me as if you don't understand this.  Sometimes things are sent to DN which are to Document the Situation.  There is no documenting No License, No Source and No Permission.  Perhaps instead of criticizing you would be so kind as to help with constructive commentary suggesting proper license.  I do not send things to Deletion Nomination due to incompetence, but rather due to this project being a community and cooperative project - our work is constantly reviewing images and attempting to save as many as possible.  I am fairly certain you were not here or part of the discussion when a former administrator was removed for "changing tags instead of sending it to DN" as one item of their removal.  I do not follow that person's method of work - did not at the time - and still do not.  I seek consensus among our community to save certain images.  It would be helpful to me and to the project if you would be so kind as to cooperate and not argue.  Certainly we discuss the fine points of copyright - but I am sure you can see the difference.  Sincerely yours,  [[User:Ellin Beltz|Ellin Beltz]] ([[User talk:Ellin Beltz|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:01, 16 March 2022 (UTC) PS. Admin and bureaucrat - both elected by the community.

* '''Note''': I keep this message to show how angry people get when you challenge their deletions by pointing out the errors in their deletion argument. Ellin Beltz converts speedy nominations to regular deletion nominations, even when the evidence is clear that the images are in the public domain. Instead she should just remove the speedy tag and explain why in the edit summary. Sometimes the nomination is because the uploader used the upload date, rather than the date the image was ''first'' created. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:31, 22 December 2022 (UTC)-

== CAB Accident Reports ==

Hi, you left a message on PeterWD's user talk page in December of 2020 asking for a source for online CAB accident reports. I don't know if you found your answer, but I just found a US govt site for the DOT's [https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/collection_iaa Repository and Open Science Access Portal (ROSAP)]. The reports are scanned, and I don't know how complete the collection is. The site says it contains "Digitized copies of United States 'Civil Aeronautics Board Aircraft Accident Reports,' dating from 1934 to 1965. Incident reports are searchable by airline name (at time of incident), site of incident, and date of incident." There are 791 investigation reports available. For my own interest I searched for the Buddy Holly crash (which I know they investigated - I found that report elsewhere) but could not find it. There are 31 reports from 1959 incidents, including a single-occupant Mooney M-18, but not Buddy Holly's Bonanza N3794N. You were specifically looking for a certain midair collision in 1940, and I didn't notice it among the 11 reports from that year. (If it was at a military airfield, would the CAB have investigated it?) It's a great resource though, if somewhat incomplete. [[User:Dcs002|Dcs002]] ([[User talk:Dcs002|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:38, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
* {{Ping|Dcs002}} Yea, I found a person that wrote back at NARA and they explained that the CAB has only scanned a small portion of their reports, and they have plans to digitize more, but no budget for it. I watched a video of NARA digitizing Civil War widow pension records, and it will take them 30 years to complete, at their current pace. Just indexing and reboxing the records took a decade. See [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWV9ObQUDRc&t=241s this video] --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:07, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
*:Thanks for the link! They have 1.28 million case files to digitize in that project. The CAB accident reports must be a fraction of a percent of that total, and all they've done is photo-scanning them, not fully digitize them with OCR & formatting or translating hand-written forms into digital text. One college I worked at until 2004 had a machine that could automate that process in seconds to minutes, depending on the document size, and that was just for office use. It made a pdf file of the document and delivered it to any computer in the network. A machine like that could do those 791 reports in a few days, as long as the original paper is intact. I bet they'd have no trouble finding volunteers for a project like that either, even if it meant hand scanning them on a flatbed scanner. I'd do it! [[User:Dcs002|Dcs002]] ([[User talk:Dcs002|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:25, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[COM:HD#Allentown discussion resumed]]==
[[File:Farm-Fresh eye.png|15px|link=|alt=]]&nbsp;You are invited to join the discussion at [[COM:HD#Allentown discussion resumed]]. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:47, 29 March 2023 (UTC)<!-- [[Template:Please see]] -->
:Just notifying you as a courtesy since you were a participant in the previous discussion. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:48, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

== I'm wondering if you'd mind applying your research skills yet again ==

Hi Richard. Would you mind taking a look at [[:File:1942 - Dresher - Martin Home - Allentown PA.jpg]], [[:File:Dick Powell as Richard Diamond, Private Decetive.jpg]], [[:File:1980 - The Shanty - 4 May MC - Allentown PA.jpg]], [[:File:1976 - The Shanty - 16 Feb MC - Allentown PA.jpg]], [[:File:1969 - Leon Furniture Fire - 9 Feb MC 3 - Allentown PA.jpg]], [[:File:1953 - Dresher - Martin Home - Allentown PA.jpg]], [[:File:1964 - Cloverleaf Motel - Fogelsville - Postcard - Allentown PA.jpg]] and [[:File:1965 - Christmas Shopping - Hess Brothers - Allentown PA.jpg]]. There are many more as well this user has uploaded that might need assessing, but this seems to be a representative sample of the rest. Many of the scans of ''The Morning Call'' images might be OK as {{tl|PD-US-not renewed}} and the restaurant ads might be OK as is (though I think separate copyright notices for ads stopped being required in 1978). The other post cards and photos might also be OK, but just in need of tweaking. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:45, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
* Sure! You can do it too, we added all the newspapers. See: [[wikidata:Q3910677|The Morning Call]] and then scroll to "Online Books Page publication ID" and click on that link, it takes you to the copyright history of the paper. It reads: "no issue renewals found", so all are PD up to 1964. If a paper doesn't have an entry for Online Books, it means there are no renewals, but the guy that runs the database hasn't added that paper as a negative yet. All the renewals for magazines and newspapers are already loaded in the database. Eventually I will migrate the renewal data directly into Wikidata. For all the above entries I have not found any copyright registration or renewals, and there is no visible copyright symbol on the advertisement flyers. It appears the uploader has been paying attention and adding the proper licenses except File:1969 - Leon Furniture Fire - 9 Feb MC 3 - Allentown PA.jpg, since the image came from the paper, the paper had a copyright symbol covering all images within. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 22:24, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
*:Thank you for looking at these. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:34, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
*:: {{ping|Marchjuly}} It is still frustrating that they do not answer in a reasonable amount of time, or return emails, or take advice. They should really start a Fandom wiki for Allentown, Pennsylvania and migrate all their long form research that was not welcome at Wikipedia and not welcome on Commons. Fandom accepts fair use imagery. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:54, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
*:::The uploader hasn't logged into Commons since the beginning of June; so, it's quite possible they're just busy with real world stuff (they previously mentioned they had some health problems) or have otherwise decided to take a bit of a break from Commons. Their last Commons edit bascially created another quasi-like article in a Commons category page despite the fact that they were aware that this is not really considered acceptable. So, either they didn't quite get what that discussion related to their quasi-articles was about, don't really care what anyone else thinks, or a combination of the two. My take is that the uploader isn't really too concerned with things like [[:COM:SCOPE]] and just sees Commons as a free website to post their original research or images they want to keep, and they haven't really given me any cause to think otherwise. I tried at the beginning to explain on their user talk page how Commons kind of works early on, but the response I got was {{tq|Whatever babe}}. How much additional time you devote to cleaning up after this person is entirely up to you. At some point, though, it might just be necessary to assume that they're [[:en:WP:NOTHERE]] for Commons and just work around them and do what's best for Commons. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:03, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

== ''Morning Call'' copyrights ==

Hi RAN. Since you added [[:Category:The Morning Call (Allentown, Pennsylvania)#Copyrights|this]] to [[:Category:The Morning Call (Allentown, Pennsylvania)]], I wondering if you have any information on the copyright status of the paper from January 1, 1964, onward. Given that 1964 + 28 years brings us all the way up to the [[:en:Copyright Renewal Act of 1992]], which made renewal no longer required, I'm wondering whether any issues of the paper published from 1964 to 1977 (inclusive) would still be eligible for copyright protection, assuming they were published with a notice, and whether anything published from 1978 onward (even without a notice) would be still be protected. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:35, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
* {{Ping|Marchjuly}} Let me look at their front page from a 1965 issue and see if they had a proper copyright notice and then I will check a 1988 issue, my guess is they would have the word "copyright" on the front page, but you never know until you check. We have a full page of movies and books that never bothered or were improperly formatted, and had their copyright invalidated. I will check later tonight at newspapers.com. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:41, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
* Ha! It looks like they did not have a copyright notice in 1967 and they had one by 1988. Let me check to see when they started adding a copyright notice, remember from 1977 to 1989, they still had to register for a copyright as well have "copyrighted" on the front page. Are there specific years you are interested in, otherwise I will have to check each year for 10 years, it will take about 30 minutes, and I will have to do it Thursday. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 03:14, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
**Thank you for doing all of this RAN. There's no rush. The files that made me start to wonder about this are being discussed at [[:COM:VPC#1969 and 1971 US newspaper clippings]]. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:01, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

== [[:File:Letitia-Geer-Patented-medical-syringe.png]] ==

Hi, If she is a US Cadet Nurse, this may be "PD-US-no notice" or "no renewal", or even PD-USgov. Could you check please? [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:48, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
*{{Ping|Yann}} I made the mistake when I corrected it months ago, I added the EU license with a cut and paste error. I fixed it, I looked through the Signal Corp collection but could not find a match, and the Internet is contaminated with copies with the wrong description. I had already searched the registration and renewal databases. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:40, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

== Character copyright ==
[[:File:Kirk Alyn as Superman in a publicity still from 1948.jpg]]

== [[:File:Fox, Donnelly, Dolan, Haran, Creedan 1938.jpg]] ==

Thank you for the great work you're doing filling in the details for this image. Can I ask you where you are getting the information from? I see you referenced a ship manifest. [[User:Ergo Sum|'''<span style="color:#0645AD">Ergo Sum</span>''']]  15:47, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
*{{Ping|Ergo Sum}} I just added it now, but this group came home on July 17, 1938 to New York City, Donnely must have come home to Boston Harbor. I have just been using a combination of search terms "Haran"+"Society of Jesus" to get a first name, then I use Familysearch to look through the 1940 census to see who is listed as a reverend under that name, then I confirm by looking for an obituary. I add all the info to Wikidata. Familysearch is free, I recommend adding in your own family tree. All the trees are in one big forest merged together. You add yourself when you create an account, then add in your parents, then when you add in your grandparents, they are usually already in the tree, and it will ask if it found the correct person, and you say yes, or no, and it then adds a new person if the answer is no. Our own history is just as important. You can get a free account to Newspapers.com through the Wikipedia Library for obituaries. Do you also work on the tables of positions? See: [[d:Talk:Q76253916]], it took me a month to clean up the table of popes. Familysearch is also a great way to find missing middle names. You can also get Ancestry through Wikipedia Library. Keep in touch. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:59, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
*:I do not, but I do a lot of work with lists of people by position on Wikipedia, especially university presidents or religious leaders. I'm going to start working on tables though. I just took a look at [[d:Talk:Q6594667]] and I see it lists multiple inconsistent predecessor/successor flags. That is because people held positions twice, not because of inaccuracies. Do you know how to resolve that on Wikidata? Also, I am always looking for middle names, so I will check that out. [[User:Ergo Sum|'''<span style="color:#0645AD">Ergo Sum</span>''']]  16:12, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
* I see the errors! They are caused by people serving less than one year. You get two error messages. Date Overlap and Inconsistent Successor. That is caused by a year-only date which is stored as "January 1". You have to flesh out full dates to get rid of the errors. I have been adding in the end-date of the previous person as the start-date for the next person, even if it took a few days to name the new person. It gets rid of the error, and then I can search for a more accurate date. You can always add sourcing_circumstance=presumably when you have to adjust the date. Usually someone is second-in-command and right away to fill the position, we have several cases where that person only accepts the job on an interim basis and we have a way to mark them, since they don't get an ordinal. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:29, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
Oh, got it. Regarding the photograph, I see you placed a {{tlPD-US-not renewed}} template. How were you able to determine it was published between 1928 and 1963? [[User:Ergo Sum|'''<span style="color:#0645AD">Ergo Sum</span>''']]  01:52, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
* United States case law has sided with an image being made public when it leaves the custody of the photographer. The Boston College Libraries archive makes no mention of a photographer, it was just another 28th General Congregation of the Society of Jesus attendee who must  have given a copy to one of the pictured people. The library has papers and images from College of the Holy Cross. To be eligible for a copyright up to 1964, you had to register for a copyright and then renew the copyright. You can search the copyright registration database and the renewal database, and none of the names of the people pictured appears. I also searched with Tineye and Google Image Search and found no one making an active copyright claim. That is the due diligence required to show the image is not under an active copyright. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 03:38, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
**Thank you. I hope you don't mind that I directed [[en:Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/John B. Creeden/archive1#Image review|a FAC discussion on Wikipedia]] to this discussion. If you care to weigh in there, please feel free. [[User:Ergo Sum|'''<span style="color:#0645AD">Ergo Sum</span>''']]  13:10, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
* "CC BY-NC-ND" is the library's default license, we have ruled in the past that some images they have released under their default license has been incorrect and the images are in the public domain. In the case of named commercial photographers that donated their negatives to the library, we have ruled that we have to show the images appeared in a magazine or newspaper to ensure it was made public prior to the donation. This image was taken by an unknown photographer who was an attendee at the 28th General Congregation of the Society of Jesus in 1938. The group pictured have in common that they attended the College of the Holy Cross or were faculty there in 1938. Italy claims copyright on images taken there, a FOP issue, so PD-Italy also applies. Italy uses "20 years from creation". The papers and images most likely originated with John Berchmans Creeden who died in 1948 and was Dean of the Boston College Graduate School of Arts & Sciences in 1930. He was not the photographer, but is in the image. The papers were most likely donated when he died in 1948, or the college kept his papers when he retired in 1939. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

== [[:Category:1908 Cleveland streetcar strike]] ==

Hi. Thanks for helping to organize these files. I'm curious about how you decided to place them in a 1908 category, though. The files are from the Library of Congress, which lists "no date recorded" [https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2014696555/ in their metadata]. Did you have another source for that date? Thanks! - [[User:EurekaLott|Eureka Lott]] 22:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
*{{ping|Eureka Lott}} The images have a sequential number on them for each batch that is developed and a sequential number for each glass plate in that batch. There is a project at Flickr Commons hosted by the Library of Congress to date them, add context, and identify the people in the images. The images are generally in sequential order, but a few tranches were moved out of place when they were moved from Bain to the Library of Congress. A few were reused and filed under the reuse date, but Bain would add the reuse date to the negative. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 22:39, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

== Margaret Bourke-White ==

Hi, Could you please help finding if [https://harkaroundthegreats.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/margaret-bourke-white-d2.png this picture] of Margaret Bourke-White would have a copyright and/or if the copyright was renewed? According to [https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2020/the-ginny-williams-collection-photographs-online/margaret-bourke-white-atop-the-chrysler-building-2], it was taken by Oscar Graubner, and according to [https://harkaroundthegreats.wordpress.com/2020/09/11/life-in-a-flash-margaret-bourke-white/], it was commissioned by Chrysler. Thanks, [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
* Let me see what I can do. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:18, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Yann}} I wasn't able to find a renewal for the 1934 image, Getty has it in their LIFE collection. I couldn't find whether it was published in the magazine in 1934 or remained unpublished. I will keep looking through the 1934 run of the magazine that is online. LIFE magazine did not begin renewing their copyrights until the November 23, 1936 issue. In the past we have been deferring to Getty claims unless we were 100% sure, which would require finding it in the 1934 LIFE issue. The issues are [https://archive.org/search?query=sim_pubid%3A5621+AND+volume%3A101&sort=date here] if you want to help. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
:::Margaret Bourke-White didn't start working for ''Life'' until 1936, it wasn't published in ''Life'', but may be in [[:en:Fortune (mmagazine)|Fortune]]. I can't find copies of ''Fortune'' online. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
::::At least the first issue wasn't renewed, i.e. [[:File:Stark Davis, Fortune front cover, 1929.jpg]]. But ''Fortune'' copyright was renewed in 1934, i.e. [https://archive.org/details/catalogofcopyrig3152libr/page/168/mode/1up?view=theater], [https://archive.org/details/catalogofcopyrig3152libr/page/388/mode/1up?view=theater]. Don't spend too much time on that, as there is very little chance that it is in the PD. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:32, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

== File:The Right Hon. Charles Joseph Clark, P.C., M.P.jpg ==

Hey there, I saw you uploaded [[:File:The Right Hon. Charles Joseph Clark, P.C., M.P.jpg]]. I have actually been trying to track the origin of this photo for weeks. Allegedly it is Public Domain according to the Library of Parliament site. I however do not know who created it or when. After many emails I was directed to The Alberta Order of Excellence, from the Alberta Archives. I might be in their collections somewhere. I mention this as the photo is likely too new to have fallen into the Public Domain yet, why I have my doubts. It could possibly be a Crown work, which might be the only suitable way to keep on Commons. The current PD-1996 tag is invalid as it only applies to works that were created prior to 1946. Just wanted to bring this up here before doing any nominating for deletion. Would be great if this mystery could be solved. [[User:PascalHD|PascalHD]] ([[User talk:PascalHD|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:20, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
* Whatever you find I will support. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
*:All I know right now is that it originates from here: https://web.archive.org/web/20120403220834/http://www.lieutenantgovernor.ab.ca/aoe/politics/charles-joseph-clark/index.html. I am awaiting a response by email, until then it's up in the air. [[User:PascalHD|PascalHD]] ([[User talk:PascalHD|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

== [[:File:William Francis Norton (1857-1939) memoir.pdf]] ==
{{Autotranslate|1=File:William Francis Norton (1857-1939) memoir.pdf|2=|3=|base=Idw}} [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:49, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

:Hi, I think you should ask if Wikisource would accept the text of this document. If yes, it might help your cause. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:08, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

== Accusations of vandalism over a single edit==
I reported your recent action in [[:File:William Francis Norton (1857-1939) memoir.pdf]] to [[COM:ANU]] as I consider it vandalism. You can comment there if you disagree. [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:28, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

== [[:File:William Francis Naughton (1857-1939) baptism in Ballyforan in the Diocese of Elphin.jpg]] ==
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== [[:File:William Francis Norton (1857-1939) death certificate.pdf]] ==
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== User:Bedivere punishing/harassing me over a single edit ==
The dispute was over [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AWilliam_Francis_Norton_%281857-1939%29_memoir.pdf&diff=877694437&oldid=877690897 this edit].  
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* [[:File:Nurse Unmoved as She Entered Joliet Bastile in the Dixon Evening Telegraph on November 22, 1928.png]] 
* [[:File:La Salle Physician is Held in Girl's Death in the Streator Daily Times-Press on August 17, 1928.png]] 
* [[:File:Hold Doctor and Assistant on Murder Charge in the Streator Daily Times-Press on August 18, 1928.png]] 
* [[:File:Georges de Robillard (1881-1912) portrait (cropped).jpg]] 
* [[:File:Hahnens Celebrate Golden Wedding in The Des Moines Register of Des Moines on October 22, 1916 (cropped).jpg]] 
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* [[:File:Yamamuro Gunpei (1872-1940).jpg]] 
* [[:File:Percival Phillips (1877-1937) in 1918.png]] 
* [[:File:Jacqueline Lard portrait.png]] 
* [[:File:Jacqueline Lard, (left), and Amy Baker (right).jpg]] 
* [[:File:British Labor Men Here Today On Tour in the New York Times on March 9, 1926.png]] 
* [[:File:Sōbu Yamamuro (1880-1963) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Jose Maria Mora found incompetent in the Times Union of Brooklyn, New York on September 16, 1926.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Jose Maria Mora obituary in the New York Times.png]] 
* [[:File:Jose Maria Mora (1847-1926) obituary in The Buffalo News of Buffalo, New York on October 20, 1926.jpg]] 
* [[:File:José María Mora death certificate.pdf]] 
* [[:File:Georges de Robillard (1881-1912) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Georges de Robillard (1881-1912) crash.png]] 
* [[:File:William Henry Poole (1876-1921) obituary in the Clinch Valley News and Richlands Press of Bristol, Virginia on June 17, 1921.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Levko Matsiievych (1877-1910) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Bruno Richard Hauptmann (1899-1936) mugshot (cropped).png]] 
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* [[:File:Ernie Jarvis portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:William Harrison Trantham (1875-1945) in 1923.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Members of an all-Black unit known as the Buffalo Soldiers on trial at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio, Texas in 1917.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Henry Mack Heard (1924-1991) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Juli Lynne Charlot (1922-2024) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Juli Lynne Charlot (1922-2024) portrait.webp]] 
* [[:File:William H. Trantham (1875-1945) passport application from 1923 (back) 01.jpg]] 
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* [[:File:William H. Trantham (1875-1945) in the Tucson Citizen of Tucson, Arizona on September 9, 1930.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Vicente Oropeza 1898.webp]] 
* [[:File:Teddy King aboard the SS Deutchland on 19 November 1929.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Konrad Bercovici (1881-1961) obituary by the Associated Press.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Konrad Bercovici (1881-1961) in The Washington Times on March 15, 1926.png]] 
* [[:File:Teddy King in The Windsor Star of Windsor, Ontario, Canada on March 6, 1926.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Teddy King in the St. Louis Globe-Democrat of St. Louis, Missouri on March 21, 1926.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Darl Beecher Ransburg Sr. (1881-1964) in the Star Tribune of Minneapolis, Minnesota on June 19, 1960.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Darl Beecher Ransburg Sr. (1881-1964) funeral notice in the Star Tribune of Minneapolis, Minnesota on July 29, 1964.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Teddi King (1929-1977) portrait.png]] 
* [[:File:Teddi King (1929-1977) portrait.webp]] 
* [[:File:Howard Dutton Norris (1896-1951) biography.png]] 
* [[:File:Great Airplane Wrecked in Fog in The Eddyville Enterprise of Eddyville, Nebraska on October 16, 1919.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Nels Larson Winblad (1841-1908) portrait.png]] 
* [[:File:Nels Larson Winblad (1841-1908) obituary in the Willmar Tribune of Willmar, Minnesota on 29 January 1908.png]] 
* [[:File:They Stick To Discipline in the New York Sun on November 30, 1881.png]] 
* [[:File:René Dussaud (1868-1958) portrait by Harcourt Studio.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Elmo Neale Pickerill (1885-1968) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:John Alston Crichton (1916-2007) in 1967.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Thore Fredrik Finne (1901-1979) funeral notice.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Colored Deacon Held As Eloper in the Times Union of Brooklyn, New York on December 2, 1925.jpg]] 
* [[:File:North Bellport in Newsday (Suffolk Edition) on 14 May 1946.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Lenexa National Archives Federal Records Center.jpg]] 
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* [[:File:Photograph by Theodor Finne (47005).jpg]] 
* [[:File:John Collier (1884-1968) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Perry Arthur Olsen (1924-2009) in the Oakland Tribune of Oakland, California on 8 July 1945.png]] 
* [[:File:Stabs By Mistake Photograph from the Magee Collection.png]] 
* [[:File:1935 Sherman Indian High School yearbook, page 7.jpg]] 
* [[:File:John Collier (1884-1968) in 1935.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Eddie August Schneider (1910-1940) in the New York Times on August 15, 1930.png]] 
* [[:File:Susannah Lattin (1848-1868) in the New York Times on September 4, 1868.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Gerald Burton Winrod (1900-1957) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:George William Haldeman (1898-1982) in 1928.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Aviators George Haldeman and Shirley Short at Mines Field after their transcontinental race, Los Angeles, 1928.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Edwin Augustus Quick (1841-1913) obituary.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Day & Meyer, Murray & Young logo.png]] 
* [[:File:Jüri Antsmaa (1891-1942) portrait.jpg]] 
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* [[:File:Mordecai Price Sr. (1660-1715) biography.png]] 
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* [[:File:John C. H. Grabill (1849-1903) in The St. Louis Republican of St. Louis, Missouri on 6 February 1903.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Vincent Clarence Price (1832-1914) obituary in Simmon's Spice Mill on August 1, 1914.png]] 
* [[:File:Baltimore County Families, 1659-1759, page 520.jpg]] 
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* [[:File:George Francis Valentine Scott-Douglas obituary in the Evening Sentinel of Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England on June 12, 1930.jpg]] 
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* [[:File:Hamilton Club in Brooklyn Heights at the intersection of Clinton Street and Remsen Street.webp]] 
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* [[:File:Marie Jensen (1883-1969) funeral notice in the Chicago Tribune of Chicago, Illinois on December 11, 1969.jpg]] 
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* [[:File:Helen Louise Hollenbach (1905-1928) death notice in The Bayonne Times of Bayonne, New Jersey on May 22, 1928.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Otto Perry Winblad (1902-1977) obituary in The Jersey Journal of Jersey City, New Jersey on November 18, 1977.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Marie Augusta Bestel (1880-1919) and Peter Hollenbach (1878-1957) wedding in The Jersey Journal of Jersey City, New Jersey on September 9, 1901.png]] 
* [[:File:Henriette Sophie Rohlfs (1850-1928) obituary in The Bayonne Times of Bayonne, New Jersey on May 23, 1928.jpg]] 
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* [[:File:George William Rankin (1919-1942) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Corliss Hooven Griffis (1895-1963) in the Dayton Daily News of Dayton, Ohio on June 1, 1924.webp]] 
* [[:File:Corliss Hooven Griffis (1894-1963) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Edward L. Stanton (1886-1962) in 1926.tif]] 
* [[:File:Nancy Goodnow (1838-1883) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Helen Louise Hollenbach (1905-1928) circa 1927 in Jersey City, New Jersey.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Jenny Katarina Wågberg (1887-1927) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Jack Jennings (1919-2024) portrait.png]] 
* [[:File:Robert Carmichael (1854-1920) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Carl Lovelace (1876-1944) and one of his children.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Carl Lovelace (1878-1941) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Giordano Bruno Lattuada (1903-1978) portrait.png]] 
* [[:File:Louis Gargano (1919-1944) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Louis Gargano (1919-1944) obituary.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Captain William Oldrin (1772-1858), recorded as Wm. Olden in the 1810 United States census in Brookhaven, New York.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Captain William Oldrin (1772-1858), recorded as William Olden in the 1820 United States census in Brookhaven, New York.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Eugene Freudenberg II (1925-1945) tombstone in 2018.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Charles Erastus Dayton (1832-1882) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Mast Wolfson (1893-1987) in 1924.png]] 
* [[:File:Roy Chapman Andrews (1884-1960) obituary by the Associated Press in the Oakland Tribune of Oakland, California on March 12, 1960.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Artemus Lamb Gates (1895-1976) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:An Illustrated History of Heidi Saha.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Dr. Richard Barter (1802-1870) portrait.jpg]] 
* [[:File:Dana Gluckstein in 1972.png]] 

Yours sincerely, [[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]] ([[User talk:Bedivere|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

== "You spoke out about my harassment at Commons but the same person has just moved to Wikidata." ==

Firstly, there is no such harassment. Your content is not especially protected because it is just yours. From the moment you make an upload, an edit, it is subject to scrutiny, and that is what has been done. There is no such harassment. Period.

Secondly, "the same person has just moved to Wikidata"? Seriously? [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions&diff=prev&oldid=2167527229 My last comment was made over two weeks ago]. You should seriously stop trying to target others as enemies or bullies just because we do not agree. It is certainly nothing personal. 

It is tragic that you can't stop shouting I and others have been harassing you. If you don't stop such disruptive behavior, I will report it at the appropriate venue and it will be others, not me, who may eventually take a decission.

Have a good day. [[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]] ([[User talk:Bedivere|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:47, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
* Others have questioned your actions and whether you have the temperament and maturity to have access to admin tools: "[this] is the sort of action that raises very real concerns over the fitness of an admin." See: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABedivere&diff=878350324&oldid=877698119 here], you saw it and deleted it from your talk page. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 03:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
*:It's not "deleted", it's [[user talk: Bedivere/archive|archived]]. See? You are failing to assume good faith. Andy has disagreed with other of my actions and that is fine. If you can't handle scrutiny, from me or others, it's not an excuse to freely say there is a harassment campaign against you. There isn't. [[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]] ([[User talk:Bedivere|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:27, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
* Nominating 400 images for deletion is harassment, then asking others to do the same at [[Wikidata:Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions#Q125118469 Wikidata is harassment]]. Selective enforcement of any rule is harassment. If you really believed in your arguments, you would be lobbying to have the rules changed to your interpretation of them ''globally'', but you do not. You are only applying your interpretation of Wikidata:Notability and Commons:Notability towards me, which is harassment. If you applied ''your interpretation'' to everyone, it would not be harassment. See the difference? Also following me around to see who I am leaving messages to is creepy cyberstalking, not something someone with Admin rights should be doing. You promised to disengage from interaction with me one Commons, but you are still looking at my contributions list.    --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

== {{autotranslate|base=PatrollerWelcome/header}} ==
{{autotranslate|1=|base=PatrollerWelcome}}[[User:Kadı|<span style="1px 1px 2px #708090;font-size:105%;color:#708090">'''Kadı'''</span>]] [[User talk:Kadı|<span style="1px 1px 2px #003366;color:#003366;">'''<small>Message</small>'''</span>]] 16:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

== Studio Harcourt, mass deletion ! ==

Hello R.A.N,

Here :
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Photographs_by_Studio_Harcourt

Best regards. [[User:Tisourcier|Tisourcier]] ([[User talk:Tisourcier|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:24, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

== Some American painters ==

Hi, Could you please help with this: [[COM:VPC#Some American painters]]? Thanks and Happy New Year! [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)