View source for User talk:Helgi-S

{{Welcome|realName=|name=Helgi-S}}

-- [[User:Wikimedia Commons Welcome|Wikimedia Commons Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikimedia Commons Welcome|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:49, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

== категории ==

Зачем вы создаёте в массовом порядке категории типа [[:Category:April 2016 Russia photographs|April 2016 Russia photographs]]? Вам известно, что уже существует категория [[:Category:April 2016 in Russia|April 2016 in Russia]] (и аналогичные), которая практически про то же самое? Вы ваши массовые создания обговорили хотя бы с одним опытным участником Викисклада, дабы был консенсус, что такие категории действительно здесь нужны? --[[User:A.Savin|A.Savin]] 16:58, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
: Потому что, кроме фотографий, на складе могут быть (и есть) и прочие изображения, а также аудио-, видеофайлы, документы всевозможных форматов и тому подобное. А наличие навигационных шаблонов типа «Russiaphotomonthyear» и аналогичных (коих немало для всевозможных стран, тем и временных промежутков) свидетельствует о том, что такие категории никого не удивляют, тем более опытных участников Викисклада. Например, загруженный Вами файл [[:File:Balashikha-station.jpg]] уже был в категории [[:Category:Photographs taken on 2009-07-27|Photographs taken on 2009-07-27]], а не в [[:Category:2009-07-27|2009-07-27]]. Я не выдумываю новые темы, лишь добавляю категории уже существующих типов. --[[User:Helgi-S|Helgi-S]] ([[User talk:Helgi-S#top|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:41, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

== Paris ==

Please don't move all images from Category:Paris to France photographs taken on ... ! If you want, you can '''copy'''. Thanks!--[[User:Paris 16|Paris 16]] ([[User talk:Paris 16|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:45, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
: 2 [[User:Paris 16|Paris 16]]: Please, see [[COM:OVERCAT]]. All this files already was in ''{{cl|January 2017 in Paris}}'' (subcategory of ''{{cl|Paris}}''). Hence, ''{{cl|Paris}}'' is excessive and unnecessary for this files. -- [[User:Helgi-S|Helgi-S]] ([[User talk:Helgi-S#top|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:27, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
They need a other category like {{cl|Restaurants in Paris}}, {{cl|Hotels in Paris}}... not only {{cl|January 2017 in Paris}}. So you can move them to  {{cl|Media of Paris needing categories}}.--[[User:Paris 16|Paris 16]] ([[User talk:Paris 16|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:27, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
: Of course, I agree. Other category, not ''{{cl|Paris}}''. I can move. And you can move too. Just do it {{-)}} --[[User:Helgi-S|Helgi-S]] ([[User talk:Helgi-S#top|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:33, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

== United States photographs category ==

{{en|1=Out of curiosity, why are you creating country day categories like [[:Category:United States photographs taken on 2017-01-17]]? It seems like it is too specific of a categories. Also, most of those images are in a category that will eventually also get to the country specific locations. By the look of your talk page, it looks like I am not the wonder this. I feel like this is something that should have been brought up on one of the large discussion pages ([[Commons:Village pump/Proposals]]) before you began doing this, so everyone could have input.[[User:Elisfkc|Elisfkc]] ([[User talk:Elisfkc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)}}
{{ru|1=Из любопытства, почему вы создаете страна день категорий, таких как [[:Category:United States photographs taken on 2017-01-17]]? Похоже, что это слишком специфичного категорий. Кроме того, большинство из этих изображений в категории, которая в конечном итоге также получить страновых конкретных местах. Судя по внешнему виду вашей странице обсуждения, это выглядит как я не удивительно, что это. Я чувствую, что это то, что должно было быть воспитан на одном из крупных дискуссионных страниц ([[Commons:Village pump/Proposals]]), прежде чем вы начали делать это, так что каждый может иметь вход. Transated с Google Translate [[User:Elisfkc|Elisfkc]] ([[User talk:Elisfkc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)}}
: 2 [[User:Elisfkc|Elisfkc]]. Sometimes, e.g. when image have no cats, or only "day photos" cat (e.g. from EXIF), or "verysmallville" cat, etc., this "country day photos" cat is simple but very useful. Image will get whole set of country/time parental cats with smart navigation. Note: all of them, including "country day photos" cat, is standard and created by templates (like {{tl|USA photographs taken on navbox}}). Nothing is mine. --[[User:Helgi-S|Helgi-S]] ([[User talk:Helgi-S#top|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:27, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
::That template was created in July 2016. You seem to be the only one to use it and just because a template exists does not mean it has to or should be used. It seems like it would be more useful to have placed those images in existing categories rather than making your own specific subcategories. [[User:Elisfkc|Elisfkc]] ([[User talk:Elisfkc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:47, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
::: 2 [[User:Elisfkc|Elisfkc]]. There are 125 "United States photographs taken on ..." categories. I created 43 of them. There are 388 "Germany photographs taken on ..." categories. I created 34. What about other countries? Enough? My "own specific subcategories"? There are no such. --[[User:Helgi-S|Helgi-S]] ([[User talk:Helgi-S#top|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
::::From what I see, most of those categories are on days when there are over 200 pictures. You are doing it for every day, even when there are less than 100. That's my problem with what you are doing. [[User:Elisfkc|Elisfkc]] ([[User talk:Elisfkc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:06, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
::::: 2 [[User:Elisfkc|Elisfkc]]. The only problem is too few files in the categories? This is fixable {{-)}}. A lot of uploaded images with EXIF dates have no "day photos" category. --[[User:Helgi-S|Helgi-S]] ([[User talk:Helgi-S#top|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:32, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::: EXIF days are not always right. I still think this is something that needs to be discussed project wide. [[User:Elisfkc|Elisfkc]] ([[User talk:Elisfkc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:34, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
{{outdent}} I agree, this is something that needs further discussion. Please stop adding these categories until there is consensus to do so. Currently, the widely used {{tl|taken on}} template automatically categorizes into Category:Photographs taken on XXXX-XX-XX. Adding Category:Photographs taken on XXXX-XX-XX in YYYYYYYY thus places those photos in both the main category and its subcategory, which should generally be avoided. Additionally, the daily categories are intended to be a sort of 'snapshot of the world' as it existed on a given day. Adding country categories obfuscates that without adding any useful detail. [[User:Pi.1415926535|Pi.1415926535]] ([[User talk:Pi.1415926535|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
: 2 [[User:Pi.1415926535|Pi.1415926535]]. Adding ''Category:Photographs taken on XXXX-XX-XX in YYYYYYYY'', I added 'cat=no' in {{tl|taken on}} or removed this template. It is not a problem. Alas, 'snapshot of the world' sometimes looks like trash bin. It was the original cause of my edits. --[[User:Helgi-S|Helgi-S]] ([[User talk:Helgi-S#top|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:06, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
::But what you see as "trash bin", many others, including myself, see as a great example of the snapshot of the world, because they are images from all over. The more constructive thing for you to do would be to work on categories that have been marked as [[Commons:Categories requiring diffusion|requiring diffusion]], rather than working on Photographs taken on ___-__-__ categories. [[User:Elisfkc|Elisfkc]] ([[User talk:Elisfkc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:47, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
::: {{ping|Elisfkc|Pi.1415926535}} You already have 'snapshot of the world' (with subcategories or not). A lot of remarkable categories have subcategories. As experienced editor, you may use tools like CatScan for obtaining lists or galleries of ''all'' images, if you need. But some editors (including myself) interested in 'snapshot of the country'. It is not prohibited. And thank you for the tip about [[Commons:Categories requiring diffusion|categories requiring diffusion]]. --[[User:Helgi-S|Helgi-S]] ([[User talk:Helgi-S#top|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:14, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
::::You have two extremely experienced editors, one an administrator, telling you to stop doing this. That means that you need to stop, and get consensus from other editors before you continue. Consider this your official warning. [[User:Pi.1415926535|Pi.1415926535]] ([[User talk:Pi.1415926535|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:43, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
::::: {{ping|Pi.1415926535}} I stopped. No such category was created. --[[User:Helgi-S|Helgi-S]] ([[User talk:Helgi-S#top|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:22, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
{{outdent}} Since you did not make a proposal, I have made one on [[Commons:Village pump/Proposals]] to empty these categories. [[User:Elisfkc|Elisfkc]] ([[User talk:Elisfkc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:55, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

[[COM:Village pump/Proposals/Archive/2017/02#Closing]]: 12 {{s}}, 12 {{o}}) for the proposal. --[[User:Helgi-S|Helgi-S]] ([[User talk:Helgi-S#top|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:24, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

== Moving photographs ==

Hello! Thanks for moving my photographs of Dülmen. Just for your information: My bot will move all these photographs within the next days/weeks. May be it's easier for you. Hopefully all missing categories like ''2017 in North Rhine-Westphalia by month'' or ''January 2017 in Germany by state'' will be created by a bot within the next days too. --<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:XRay|XRay]]</span> <sup>[[User_talk:XRay|talk]]</sup> 17:51, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
: OK. Quality images, indeed. I click [https://tools.wmflabs.org/osm4wiki/cgi-bin/wiki/wiki-osm.pl?project=Commons&article=Category%3AGermany_photographs_taken_on_2017-01-06 links like this] for comfort seeing. --[[User:Helgi-S|Helgi-S]] ([[User talk:Helgi-S#top|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:29, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

== [[:File:Arnold Moltrecht.jpg]] ==
{{Autotranslate|1=File:Arnold Moltrecht.jpg|2=|3=|base=Idw}} [[User:PlanespotterA320|PlanespotterA320]] ([[User talk:PlanespotterA320|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:11, 2 April 2020 (UTC)