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Hi, This is just to inform you that [[Daniel R. Gernatt, Jr.]] has been nominated by another editor for deletion. [[User:Daniellagreen|<b style="color:#7F007F">Daniellagreen</b>]] [[User talk:Daniellagreen|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Daniellagreen|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 17:45, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Hi, This is just to inform you that [[Daniel R. Gernatt, Jr.]] has been nominated by another editor for deletion. [[User:Daniellagreen|<b style="color:#7F007F">Daniellagreen</b>]] [[User talk:Daniellagreen|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Daniellagreen|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 17:45, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
:I'm sorry I had to argue deletion there, but for that specific article I couldn't find a policy or guideline to keep it, as hard as I tried :( <small><span style="text-shadow:4px 4px 15px #F6E,-4px -4px 15px #F6E;">[[User:Solarra|<b style="color:#730056;font-family:Comic Sans MS">♥ Solarra ♥</b>]]</span> • </small><sub>[[User talk:Solarra|T]] ♀ [[Special:Contribs/Solarra|C]]</sub> 04:45, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
:I'm sorry I had to argue deletion there, but for that specific article I couldn't find a policy or guideline to keep it, as hard as I tried :( <small><span style="text-shadow:4px 4px 15px #F6E,-4px -4px 15px #F6E;">[[User:Solarra|<b style="color:#730056;font-family:Comic Sans MS">♥ Solarra ♥</b>]]</span> • </small><sub>[[User talk:Solarra|T]] ♀ [[Special:Contribs/Solarra|C]]</sub> 04:45, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

== Supreme Court Cases ==

Hi Solarra. I've noticed that you've started writing articles on Supreme Court cases, which I think is a fascinating topic: I've written one myself, [[Gabelli v. SEC]]. One thing though: in the context of SCOTUS cases, ''per curiam'' refers only to unsigned opinions, and the opinion of the Court will explicitly designate it thus (example:[http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-113_o7jp.pdf]). If a specific justice delivers the opinion, it's not per curiam. Thanks, [[User:Altamel|Altamel]] ([[User talk:Altamel|talk]]) 17:55, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
:Thank you, and I know, honestly it's a template learning issue. I'll go back and fix it :-) <small><span style="text-shadow:4px 4px 15px #F6E,-4px -4px 15px #F6E;">[[User:Solarra|<b style="color:#730056;font-family:Comic Sans MS">♥ Solarra ♥</b>]]</span> • </small><sub>[[User talk:Solarra|T]] ♀ [[Special:Contribs/Solarra|C]]</sub> 19:08, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
::Hi, Solarra, some constructive advice. First, you're not being careful when you create these articles. There are obvious errors (like redlinks) that you should catch before going on to the next one. Second, I don't know if other articles do this, but the abbreviations for district and circuit courts you're using in the infobox are ugly. Why would anyway use "Ckt" for circuit? Maybe Cir., but it's just as easy, for example to say "Ninth Circuit" or whatever circuit. Finally, although I haven't seen this in your stubs, I have seen it in some of your comments. The word "judgment" is spelled without an "e" in America. The other spelling is British. As an American lawyer, I'm surprised you'd want to spell it the British way unless you're just trying to be culturally diverse. :-) --[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 20:33, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
:::There's a definite system for court abbreviations&mdash;I expect you've learned the Bluebook citation format, Solarra. I tried looking at it once, and I could make neither head nor tail of it, but it's probably the best style out there. Yeah, the weird thing about the SCOTUS infobox is no matter what value you designate for the parameter {{para|per curiam}}, "yes" or "no", it still makes per curiam show up. I already fixed that issue in the articles I found. Check out [[United States v. Lara]], it's a featured SCOTUS case page. [[User:GregJackP|GregJackP]] wrote that one; it's too bad he retired in February. [[User:Altamel|Altamel]] ([[User talk:Altamel|talk]]) 01:53, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
::::Solarra should be familiar with Bluebook; most American lawyers are. I don't create case articles myself, so I haven't looked at any guidance that might be out there. In other words, just like in so many things, Wikipedia doesn't always follow other styles - it often has its own. The case you mention, for example, doesn't follow Bluebook style to the letter, although it hews fairly closely to it. One of the cited cases in the primary history is very odd as it puts in both 8th Cir. and the district court in the same parenthetical. I assume that's a mistake but I'm not going to alter it. For a featured article it has a lot of language quirks and errors - probably written by a lawyer or lawyers. :-) --[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 03:23, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, This is just to inform you that Daniel R. Gernatt, Jr. has been nominated by another editor for deletion. Daniellagreen (talk) (cont) 17:45, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry I had to argue deletion there, but for that specific article I couldn't find a policy or guideline to keep it, as hard as I tried :( ♥ Solarra ♥TC 04:45, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Supreme Court Cases

Hi Solarra. I've noticed that you've started writing articles on Supreme Court cases, which I think is a fascinating topic: I've written one myself, Gabelli v. SEC. One thing though: in the context of SCOTUS cases, per curiam refers only to unsigned opinions, and the opinion of the Court will explicitly designate it thus (example:[1]). If a specific justice delivers the opinion, it's not per curiam. Thanks, Altamel (talk) 17:55, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, and I know, honestly it's a template learning issue. I'll go back and fix it :-) ♥ Solarra ♥TC 19:08, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Solarra, some constructive advice. First, you're not being careful when you create these articles. There are obvious errors (like redlinks) that you should catch before going on to the next one. Second, I don't know if other articles do this, but the abbreviations for district and circuit courts you're using in the infobox are ugly. Why would anyway use "Ckt" for circuit? Maybe Cir., but it's just as easy, for example to say "Ninth Circuit" or whatever circuit. Finally, although I haven't seen this in your stubs, I have seen it in some of your comments. The word "judgment" is spelled without an "e" in America. The other spelling is British. As an American lawyer, I'm surprised you'd want to spell it the British way unless you're just trying to be culturally diverse. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 20:33, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There's a definite system for court abbreviations—I expect you've learned the Bluebook citation format, Solarra. I tried looking at it once, and I could make neither head nor tail of it, but it's probably the best style out there. Yeah, the weird thing about the SCOTUS infobox is no matter what value you designate for the parameter |per curiam=, "yes" or "no", it still makes per curiam show up. I already fixed that issue in the articles I found. Check out United States v. Lara, it's a featured SCOTUS case page. GregJackP wrote that one; it's too bad he retired in February. Altamel (talk) 01:53, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Solarra should be familiar with Bluebook; most American lawyers are. I don't create case articles myself, so I haven't looked at any guidance that might be out there. In other words, just like in so many things, Wikipedia doesn't always follow other styles - it often has its own. The case you mention, for example, doesn't follow Bluebook style to the letter, although it hews fairly closely to it. One of the cited cases in the primary history is very odd as it puts in both 8th Cir. and the district court in the same parenthetical. I assume that's a mistake but I'm not going to alter it. For a featured article it has a lot of language quirks and errors - probably written by a lawyer or lawyers. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 03:23, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]