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== R: Prod of [[Manorama Bai]] ==

Is there some reason you chose PROD instead of CSD or AfD? I was kinda confused when I saw the tag was a PROD. [[User:L3X1|L3X1]] [[User talk:L3X1|<small>(distant write)</small>]] 01:45, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
:I didn't see any urgency or other factor that suggested CSD. I'm less familiar with AfD, it not having an obviously easy button to push on the Twinkle menu! Frankly any of PROD, CSD or AfD would be OK by me. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 08:45, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

== Nomination of [[:Al-Masdar News]] for deletion ==
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== OR using a primary source ==

{{ping|Stickee}} Could you help me understand the OR/primary source policy, as relates to my use of a Google result count on [[Al-Masdar News]]? Excuse me for being possibly slow to get the point...

So, [[WP:Primary]] says "articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources".
:I understand that the Google page saying "About 5,560 results" is a primary source for the statement "Other news sites have quoted Al-Masdar News thousands of times".

The policy is "... primary sources that have been reputably published may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care," and "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source."
:Do you see my statement as interpretation, rather than a "straightforward, descriptive statements of facts", which is allowed?

Thanks for your help... [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 01:27, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
:Hi Batternut, I'll link you to a previous example (using Google Web search hits rather than Google News search hits). Particular quote from an admin: {{tq|"I'll agree with the chorus here that analyzing Google search results is an extreme example of OR (it's not even an analysis of a reliable primary source)."}} [[Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard/Archive 10#Counting Google hits and dictionary entries to support a claim]]. [[User:Stickee|Stickee]] <small>[[User talk:Stickee|(talk)]]</small> 02:18, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
::While I agree with some of the comments in that discussion, I don't think that the admin's conclusion applies to the AMN "Other news sites have quoted..." case. The ''Daylight saving time'' case features "analyzing Google search results", whereas the AMN case does not, to my mind, involve ''analyzing''. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 09:06, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

== Hello! Could you please look into this "North India" thing. ==

This user Fylindfotberserk has just escalated all those issues from geography/culture to racism and spoiled all my discussion thread! I just wanted to tell you that NCZCC site is worth mentioning on North India page as it was earlier mentioned and it was there for years. Even look at the map available on North India, It talks about states in North central Cultural zone as well. 
And also there is no proper definition of "North Central India" as well, as it is considered to be a part of North India only. As you can notice it has componet states from NZCC as well, no other cultural zone have states form nzcc. And if this can't be there as it is a cultural site, then why is there nzcc used as primary reference? Why not just geological survey of India site, as this page is more about geographical location of north india and not cultural. And if cultural is used, it should be used a whole, because both north and north central are overalapping and are a part of region that makes North India in its entirety [[Special:Contributions/103.212.158.108|103.212.158.108]] ([[User talk:103.212.158.108|talk]])  <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 03:28, 11 April 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Okay So I have found one "Times of India" article which clearly says North Indian states as from Punjab to Bihar. Here's the link http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Marriages-last-the-longest-in-north-India-Maharashtra-least-in-northeast/articleshow/50618599.cms  [[Special:Contributions/103.212.158.108|103.212.158.108]] ([[User talk:103.212.158.108|talk]])  <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 05:14, 11 April 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
One more http://www.firstpost.com/economy/can-north-india-overtake-arrogant-south-in-growth-292855.html [[Special:Contributions/103.212.158.108|103.212.158.108]] ([[User talk:103.212.158.108|talk]]) 05:20, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Again http://www.gounesco.com/festivals-north-india/  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/103.212.158.108|103.212.158.108]] ([[User talk:103.212.158.108#top|talk]]) 05:22, 11 April 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Thanks for pointing out these links. The Times of India and the FirstPost articles are useful - I have just mentioned them in [[North India#Wider definition]]. The goUNESCO article however, even though well written, seems likely to be user content. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 07:11, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[ARA News]] ==

Hello, Batternut. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, [[ARA News]], for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:

# [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title={{urlencode:ARA News}}&action=edit edit the page]
# remove the text that looks like this: {{tlc|proposed deletion/dated...}} 
# save the page

Also, ''be sure to explain why'' you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on [[Talk:ARA News|the article's talk page]].  If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway. 

You can leave a note on [[User_talk:Winged Blades of Godric|my talk page]] if you have questions.

[[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User  talk:Winged Blades of Godric| Godric]]</sup>  04:10, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

==Illegality of Facebook reference count==
(Discussion moved to [[Talk:Hawar News Agency#Illegality of Facebook reference count|Talk:Hawar News Agency]].) [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 17:29, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

==Illegal Refs==
(2 comments from {{U|scope_creep}} moved to discussion at [[Talk:Hawar News Agency#Illegality of Facebook reference count|Talk:Hawar News Agency]].) [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 08:33, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
==  [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[:Hawar News Agency]] ==
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== [[Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant#Requested move 18 July 2017]] ==

I have closed your RfC on [[talk:ISIL]] and reopend it as an [[WP:RM|RM]] because the requested moves process is the best one to use for requested moves. This is for several reasons:
# Generally it is a shorter process so decisions are reached more quickly.
# It tends to attract more editors who have an interest and expertise in page titles over and above those who lurk around the talk page of a specific article. An RfC is less likely to attract such expertise.
#The process and closing of an RM is tailored made for moving pages. It includes a [[Wikipedia:Move review|move review]] option for anyone thinks that the process had not been followed correctly.
I will post this explanation to the talk page of the article. -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 11:55, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
:Thanks for your efforts, but I am not requesting a move at this point - a move request needs a specific name to move the article to. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 22:35, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
As I said in this edit 
The edits I made to [[Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant#Requested move 18 July 2017]] are administrative edits  I made this clear on the talk page:
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:FYI, 1RR doesn't apply to the talk page, just to the article, but I accept that you can whack me with your GS [[Mace (bludgeon)|admin mace]] for anything :-( [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 22:14, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

== [[WP:ANI#Unwelcome conversion of RfC to RM|ANI#Unwelcome conversion of RfC to RM]] ==

In reply to your most recent posting to my talk page. AFAICT not one admin has commented in the ANI section [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive959#Unwelcome conversion of RfC to RM|Unwelcome conversion of RfC to RM]].

If you want me to changed back, you would do well to explain why you phrased you RfC as you did (not neutral) and specifically why the sentence "{{green|Note that this is an RFC, not a move request - the qualifier is still to-be-decided (TBD). If the consensus is to rename, then a subsequent discussion can choose the qualifier}}" does did not have the capacity to sow discord. It would also help if you explained why you decided to use biased language in the ANI section title "unwelcome conversion of RfC to RM". If you want support for other options then propose them for example, the mess could be closed and you can start a fresh RM.

So that every one can read it if you decide to reply then please do so in the relevant ANI section. -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 07:30, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

== No RfC for discussing title of the article [[Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant]] ==

I think that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AIslamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant&type=revision&diff=791770840&oldid=791726275 this edit]. Needs further clarification.

Under the of [[Wikipedia:General sanctions|general sanctions]] for pages related to the [[Syrian Civil War]] and the [[Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant]], will you agree:
#Not to initiate an RfC to discuss the title of the article [[Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant]];
#That while you may initiate an ordinary section to discuss the title of the article, you will not do so more than once every six months;
#That you may initiate an [[WP:RM]] to request a change in the article title, but only after at least six months have passed since the last RM.

If as requested I can close the current RM (others may object), then as a technical closure, it will not be considered a RM affecting number three above.

-- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 11:48, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Firstly, thanks for taking the time to spell out your position. I agree that six months between RMs is reasonable, provided they are sensible requests that gain a decent level of debate. I am currently of the opinion that, prior to another RM, a better-focussed and possibly rather technical discussion aimed purely at agreeing the current "common name" of the group would be worthwhile. Clearly such a discussion, if consensus reached, would have direct effect upon the raising of another RM. I will probably run the wording of any such discussion by you first; hoping not to appear Machiavellian or to sneak something under anybody's radar; and then raise it as a normal discussion on the ISIL talk page - unless you advise and I agree to using a different forum or mechanism. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 15:32, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
:To avoid conflicting outcomes as you envisaged at the ANI, a follow-on RM would be final, but only arguments other than common name would be considered. This should be spelled out clearly in the RM. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 15:46, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
:<small>(btw, I will on holiday in a few days time, and expect to be quiet for a month. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 22:04, 22 July 2017 (UTC))</small>
::OK I'll take that as a yes. As there have been no objections (by any other editor) to the closure of the RfC/RM I will close it, and I will also close the ANI.
:: I can not control the input of other editors to an RM (nor would I want to), but you will have the option to use the "[[WP:move review|move review]]" if you think that the closer has given undue weight to opinions that are not supported by the [[WP:AT]] policy and its naming conventions. 
::You are now bound by the three conditions above. I will be adding notification of such to the general sanctions page.
::-- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 14:57, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|PBS}} We agree a mutually acceptable way forward, and you list it under the [[WP:GS/SCW#Log of blocks and bans|GS Log of blocks and bans]] (and without the Minimum information of "what was done and the basis for doing it"). A "gentleman's agreement" should have sufficed (regardless of your gender). You might reconsider this action? [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 20:04, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

== List of aviation shootdowns and accidents during the Syrian Civil War ==
Hello, according to your source in the list of aviation incidents and accidents in the Syrian civil war you said that a drone was shot down over Syria, however according to your source the drone was shot down over Israel. [[User:Oscarm18|Oscarm18]] ([[User talk:Oscarm18|talk]]) 02:09, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
: {{Ping|Oscarm18}} The source (not mine) says near Quneitra in the DMZ between Syria and the Golan Heights. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 07:50, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

== [[Template:Largest cities of India]] ==

Just to give you the explanation that I think is due, I had a {{wt|en|brain fart}}. There was a [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 September 23#Template:Most populous cities in the Republic of India|recent discussion]] and I misread the first part "duplicates Million-plus agglomerations in India" as related, hence referring to [[WP:TFD]]. I somehow didn't read the second part, "not suitable as navbar", which I totally agree with. Anyway, apologies for the extra work. --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] ([[User talk:Muhandes|talk]]) 16:14, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
:We've all been there! Thanks. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 16:18, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

== Camaraderie ==

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== [[List of largest cities]] - NYC ==

Just to clarify my edit (the one you reverted) on the population of New York city, I was actually reverting what looked like an arbitrary change of the population to 10,550,405 at 11:24 on October 26.  Up until that point, the population had been listed for some time as 8,550,405. For what it's worth, the linked NYT source from 2011 states a population of 8,175,133. However the NYC official website, [https://www1.nyc.gov/site/planning/data-maps/nyc-population/population-facts.page nyc.gov] states a population of 8,550,405 as of 2017.  So it seems the population figure of 10,550,405 has no basis, while 8,550,405 does have a (albeit currently un-cited) reliable source.
[[User:Ropo153|Ropo153]] ([[User talk:Ropo153|talk]]) 21:03, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Ropo153}} Without any edit comment, your first update of just the figure looked pretty random, and it didn't match the citation. But now that you have found a source to match the figure, that's good work - thanks! [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 23:25, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

== Hello ==

Hi Battermut. I noticed you reverted [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=810709154&oldid=810677835&title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Greater_Johannesburg these edits]. My apologies of course if it conveyed the impression that I was archiving our discussion, but that wasn't the intention. I wanted to make the discussions concisely structured, that's why wrote [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Greater_Johannesburg&diff=prev&oldid=810677835 "Extended discussion"] within it, changing the "archiving" message. But again, my apologies if it conveyed otherwise. Thanks, <small>'''[[User talk:Lourdes|<span style="color:black;">Lourdes</span>]]'''</small> 00:36, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

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== Rfc notice ==

More options have been added to the Rfc at [[Charles, Prince of Wales]]. You many want to put that article on your watchlist :) [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 16:48, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

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== [[Template:Million-plus agglomerations in India]] ==

Hi, the reason why I chose States over Zonal Councils is because the latter is NOT a census-defined entity. The census data essentially pertains to states, districts and cities/towns/villages/UAs – UAs have nothing to do with "administration". <span style="white-space:nowrap;">&mdash;[[User:Vensatry|<span style="color:indigo;">'''Vensatry'''</span>]] <sub> [[User talk:Vensatry|<span style="color:Indigo;">'''(talk)'''</span>]] </sub></span> 08:27, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

== December 2017 ==
Moved discussion to [[Talk:Khulna#Population figures]]. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 09:19, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

== South Africa article revert of edit ==

Hi there, I believe you reverted my edit on [[South Africa]] due to clarity on the subject of South African English. Please see https://sadev.co.za/content/how-correctly-format-currency-south-africa that clearly explains using many references the style used in South African English. 1 234 567,00 not 1,234,567.00 or 12,4 million not 12.4 million. Please respect this. I think this is proof enough. Please check what changes you reverted and put them back. I am an English speaker from South Africa and I can assure you from personal experience that this is what is done here. Since this is an article strongly associated with South Africa, it should follow South African conventions.

Thanks
[[User:Waddie96|Waddie96]] ([[User talk:Waddie96|talk]]) 14:30, 20 December 2017 (UTC)  [[User:Waddie96|Waddie96]] ([[User talk:Waddie96|talk]]) 14:30, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

:{{Ping|Waddie96}} It's an interesting question. Do you know of other South Africa associated articles that use gaps for number grouping? I think there's a good discussion to be had here, if it hasn't been discussed before. Am just wondering where/which forum would be best. I'll get on this shortly... [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 18:19, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
::I've started a discussion about this at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South Africa#Should South Africa articles use "continental system" numbers?]]. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 10:15, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
:::The follow-up discussion for your proposal ([[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South Africa#Should existing South Africa articles be changed to use gaps as thousands separators?|here]]) has received a rather comprehensive rebuttal from an MoS old hand. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 22:33, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

==Rome==

Sorry to have accidentally deleted your comment... but I don't understand why you didn't keep mine as well when you re-inserted yours. --[[User:Macrakis|Macrakis]] ([[User talk:Macrakis|talk]]) 21:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
:There were some other changes, maybe someone had done some thread archiving, which you seemed to have clobbered, so I just hit the quick-and-easy rollback button... [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 00:37, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

==European cities==
Thanks, but I do not work twice. It is easy to delete someone else's work. The data is old, old, irrelevant. Eurostat 2011 it is absolute useless. I wanted to make some updates, but I changed my plans. I don't care about the subject. The page-site is uninteresting with the ancient data. Update you, of course...European cities. Thanks and good luck with the work ^-^. --[[User:MIRAIL|MIRAIL]] ([[User talk:MIRAIL|talk]]) 14:17, 7 January 2018 (UTC)  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MIHAIL|MIHAIL]] ([[User talk:MIHAIL#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MIHAIL|contribs]]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:It can be tedious I know, but if you don't provide sources for the figures you give, they fail the [[WP:VERIFIABILITY]] policy. It is part of the [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|fundamental principles of Wikipedia]] - "all articles must strive for verifiable accuracy". [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 12:27, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

== Hindi belt ==

Just calculate... India's population is 1.3 billion and 41% speak Hindi saying their mother tongue. So Hindi speakers are more than 500 millions plus Urdu speakers. [[User:Abhay Agrawal|Abhay Agrawal]] ([[User talk:Abhay Agrawal|talk]]) 05:07, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
:Do be aware of the WP policy on [[Wikipedia:No original research]] - one has to ask when and where did that 41% figure come from; and does it apply to the current population of India? [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 08:57, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

== Amity Greater Noida ==

-> please keep conversation together at [[User talk:CSM007]]. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 09:00, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

=="United Kingdom" in 18th century==
The point is that "Great Britain" was called exactly that, and never "United Kingdom" as a name. The ''name'' of "United Kingdom" was invented in 1800, taking effect in 1801. If you read the Treaty of Union and the Acts of Union, you'll see they use capital letters for a huge number of nouns, and even for some adjectives - for instance, for the term "One Kingdom". Some non-academic sources misunderstand or misrepresent the facts of this, sometimes misunderstanding, sometimes disingenuously relying on, the use of "United Kingdom" as a description in 1707. No one has come up with any instances of "United Kingdom" being used as a name in the 18th century, but a negative like that can't be proved. It isn't helpful for the Wikipedia page to fudge this and mislead people [[User:Moonraker|Moonraker]] ([[User talk:Moonraker|talk]]) 20:46, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks for the message {{u|Moonraker}}, it is an interesting observation. The implication is that descriptions "Kingdom of Great Britain" and "United Kingdom of Great Britain" have no great significance, as the adjective 'Kingdom' and adjectival phrase 'United Kingdom' are merely capitalized out of a older typographic standard. Thus it is incorrect for us ''now'' to interpret those passages as alternate names, which is rather implied by the article as it is. It makes sense to me, but I think we would need to cite someone else pointing it out to avoid OR. If no such citation can be found, my approach would be to remove that passage completely, ie <code>The 1707 Acts of Union declared that the kingdoms of England and Scotland were "United into One Kingdom by the Name of Great Britain"<del>, though the new state is also referred to in the Acts as the "Kingdom of Great Britain", "United Kingdom of Great Britain" and "United Kingdom"</del>.</code> [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 22:19, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

::Yes, that would be helpful. I strongly suspect the term "Kingdom of Great Britain" has been invented on Wikipedia, to disambiguate from the island of [[Great Britain]], but it's hard to fathom and I may be wrong. All hits for "Kingdom of Great Britain" on Jstor and Google books before about 2000 turn out to be for "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland", or Northern Ireland. At first sight, it doesn't seem like a big deal, but some confusion can happen if the 18th-century Great Britain starts to get mixed up with the 19th-century and later United Kingdom, including all or part of Ireland. It does happen.  [[User:Moonraker|Moonraker]] ([[User talk:Moonraker|talk]]) 23:01, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

== XfD ==

Hi, when nominating stuff for deletion, there's a general expectation (as the instructions say), to notify the creator of the page and/or substantial contributors. Thanks! – [[User talk:Uanfala|Uanfala (talk)]] 15:34, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
:The discussion at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 February 25#Pahari languages]] is not a deletion discussion, it's about changing the target of a redirect. Apologies though, if it has caused offence. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 23:23, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
::Of course it has not caused offence, but after seeing your AfD and then the RfD I thought you might not be aware of the general expectation. – [[User talk:Uanfala|Uanfala (talk)]] 23:31, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
:::Ah, I'd forgotten (already!) the AfD of [[Pahari language]] - the raising of that was a response to your revert of my revert of that article, so it seemed obvious that you would see the AfD, which indeed you did. I used Twinkle to raise the AfD, which notified the creator at [[User talk:Bkag009]]. I take the point though that major contributors may no longer be watching the page. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 23:40, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

== Good faith? ==

Your edits to be honest weren't in good faith but in ignorance as the article itself or my edits that appear in the article didn't have any indic script. The link rather leads to the section of the article which is in a different language but is still written in Roman script which you probably didn't bother to check. That section of that article shows the "demonyms" used by the locals themselves in Roman script. Goans don't call themselves goan in their own language.[[Special:Contributions/103.48.58.226|103.48.58.226]] ([[User talk:103.48.58.226|talk]]) 18:44, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
: Oh, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Goa&type=revision&diff=827477185&oldid=827358649 this edit], you are quite right. My revert comment should have been "Not English, and refs [[WP:CIRCULAR]]." [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 20:51, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
: Btw, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary]] also applies. Your other edits remain entirely welcome of course, afaik. And please do consider creating an account - it's very quick, and makes it easy for you to keep an eye on your favourite articles. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 21:04, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
:: I don't understand why you deleted the Kokani & Marathi & Portuguese demonyms for Goans which someone else had added but kept the terms "indiacatos" & "mestiços". The people of Goa are indeed called Govekar, I know that because I'm Kokani myself & Goan is a word almost never used by locals unless they're speaking in English which means it's a foreign word used when speaking a foreign language. Mentioning the local words for a particular demonym is in nearly every Wikipedia article & it should be mentioned cause people reading it need to know what terms or words locals use to describe themselves in their own language. Why would you disagree with that? My previous edit had a link to the goan kokani article's subsection that mentioned the demonyms in English, Marathi & Kokani but later I just wrote that those words were mentioned in the subsection to of the main article itself but you removed that. I'm getting a feeling you're being rather one sided against Marathi & Kokani language which is inappropriate cause you kept the two Portuguese terms as it is.[[Special:Contributions/103.48.58.226|103.48.58.226]] ([[User talk:103.48.58.226|talk]]) 06:46, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
::: Did you read [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary]]? Look at [[France]], or [[Germany]] - under demonym does it list francais, or deutsch? No. This is the English language wikipedia, it is written in English. Consider starting a discussion at [[Talk:Goa]] and build a consensus if you want to pursue this. Repeated edits counter to Wikipedia policy will be seen as disruptive editing. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 23:06, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
::: There's probably a good case under NOTDICT for removing ''indiacatos'' too, and perhaps ''mestiços'' (although ''mestizo'' is used in English). I have nothing against Marathi, Kokani or any other language, indeed I wish them and their wikis well. Regarding other articles with foreign language demonyms, feel free to tell me and I will fix them too. Or indeed you could do it. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 10:56, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
:::: I don't see as many wikipedia pages as probably you do cause edits or whatever it is that you do on wikipedia isn't necessarily for me as hobby. I only remember a few countries mostly cause they play Cricket I checked there pages a few times like Australia is not just Australian, NZ is not just New Zealander, Wales is not just Welsh, etc. I'm sure you'll be able to find more since that's what you do. What is your issue with the article describing in it's population section the different words or demonyms used by locals? Why is that so hard for you to accept that such information could be given in wikipedia? Being English as the language of the article does it means that even small information like Goans are called Govekar in their own language isn't allowed? Wikipedia is supposed to be for gaining information including those small ones that you'd get from first hand sources. I did read that link you sent & may be you could tell me exactly which section forbids mentioning of such info even in the section of the article of locals if it's not in English in case I missed it. Is that how knowledge spreads? Restricting everything that's not English? It's not like an entire para or sentence was being written in a different language, it's just a few words regarding demonym. No one really uses Goan in Goa or outside as much unless it's English speaking elites cause even English speaking locals say Govekar. This seems more about arrogance of some anglophones than any policy but if there's any that I missed that forbids mentioning any word of foreign language in giving any extra info on wikipedia which I wrongfully thought was for getting info on different topics & subjects you can point it out specifically so I could know.[[Special:Contributions/103.48.58.226|103.48.58.226]] ([[User talk:103.48.58.226|talk]]) 18:59, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
:::::As you feel strongly about this you should start a discussion at [[Talk:Goa]] - with some evidence on the use of Govekar in English works you may be able to convince enough people. The [[Australia]] article lists ''Aussie'' but that is a very commonly used colloquialism, as is ''Kiwi'' for New Zealander. ''Cymry'' on the Wales article looks wrong to me - I'll look into it. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 20:57, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
:::::It surprised me, but ''Cymry'' is in my old Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary. Neither ''Govekar'' nor ''Goenkar'' are though. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 21:04, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
: I'm sure it is cause Wales is part of UK so it could be in an English dictionary. There are many words in my Oxford dictionary new editions & many aren't that are not of English origin (''Cymry'' isn't there in any of my Oxford dictionaries). Just because a word is in the dictionary or didn't manage to get in the dictionary doesn't validates or invalidates the authenticity of a word or it's legitimate existence or use. It only means makers of that dictionary knew those words or didn't. Is the word ''Goan'' in it too? It's not in my Oxford dictionaries. Look at [[Monaco]] or [[Brussels]] or [[Quebec]] - under demonym does it list Monégasque or Bruxellois(e) & Brusselse or Québécois & Québécoise? Yes. I just looked for a few & found some. There will be more cause it's part of basic information about the people of any given place & it's validity isn't dependent on your dictionary nor it's use in English language especially since the native people aren't anglophones. About your earlier comment, I read again & realised it was quite arrogant may be you didn't meant it that way but now you're saying a Welsh language demonym is valid according to you cause you see it in your dictionary. I think you forgot "This is the English language wikipedia, it is written in English", your words. You can keep your above mentioned well wish with yourself cause I don't think it's needed. A non English word inducted in some English language dictionary doesn't make it English which I'm sure you'd agree. Why not check yourself online if these words are really valid or not. My earlier edit had a link for '''Govekar''' to a dictionary but may be you prefer only the one you have in your possession which is unfortunate cause I've never heard of it so I can't be sure of it's quality. No one would really use ''Cymry'' in English but it's in your dictionary to give that extra knowledge to you that such a word is used in the local language to describe it's people so you can learn something new that you'd never learn from purely isolationist use of English that you're advocating.  So, is ''Goan'' in your dictionary or you'd make it your exception if it's not? I always heard wikipedia isn't a good source of information although I never cared about it before but I understand that now. Then I'll simply use different sources to read more often instead of wikipedia everytime where the info may be the same but without oversmart anglophile randomly anti non English language police trolls cause I saw you showed the same behaviour regarding '''Maharashtriya''' in the Maharashtra article.[[Special:Contributions/103.48.58.226|103.48.58.226]] ([[User talk:103.48.58.226|talk]]) 21:42, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Dear [[Special:Contributions/103.48.58.226|103.48.58.226]], your time and effort would be much better spent arguing your case at [[Talk:Goa]]. Do you really believe what you have argued above? If so, start a discussion about it at [[Talk:Goa]] - click on "New Section", give a subject/headline such as "Other demonyms", and put your case in the big text box. Your voice will be heard there. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 12:32, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

:I did. But why haven't you removed those above mentioned demonyms yet? You even removed '''Maharashtriya''' from [[Maharashtra]] but not the ones I mentioned above. I honestly feel your behaviour really doesn't appear constructive nor right.[[Special:Contributions/103.48.58.226|103.48.58.226]] ([[User talk:103.48.58.226|talk]]) 07:30, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

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:{{ping|Arnabsaha2212}} Thanks, that looks like a fine cuppa! You may know Kolkata very well, but when did you last personally measure the length of the metro? I reverted your edit because the source  cited gives 25.1 km as the length - if you noticed a more recent announcement with an updated figure you should replace the citation at the same time as entering the new information.
:Alas I have also had to revert your [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kolkata&type=revision&diff=832011343&oldid=831938343 latest edit] as it fell foul of the decision made some time ago to avoid the use of Indic scripts in infoboxes and leads - read about it at [[WP:NOINDICSCRIPTS]]. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 09:23, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

=== Kolkata ===

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The '''[[Kolkata Metro]]''' is a [[rapid transit]] system serving the [[Kolkata metropolitan area]] in the [[India|Indian]] state of [[West Bengal]]. The network currently consists of one operational line of 27.22 km from [[Noapara metro station|Noapara]] to [[Kavi Subhash metro station|Kavi Subhash]].

The length was 25 km before the extension. The line was extended in 2013 and it became 27 km. To show you I have copied the text from the Wikipedia page of Kolkata metro.

Saha 05:30, 24 March 2018 (UTC)Arnabsaha2212

:Alas again, quoting wikipedia falls foul of yet another policy - [[WP:Circular]]! Anyway, [[Kolkata Metro Line 1]] says in the lead that the line has a "total distance of 25.30 km" (though elsewhere it says 27.39 km which is ''similar'' to your figure. Neither of those articles seems to have a good source for this information, and not on their Bangla wiki pages either as far as I can tell. If you find a good source for a 27km figure please mention it. Non-English language sources are usable, although English sources are preferred. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 15:54, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

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== ‎Syed Abid haider ==

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== ARA News ==

The news from [[ARA News]] is not good (the problem is that there is no news). :( It was a nice alternative to Rudaw.net, for non-Kurdish-speaking readers like me. I don't have any info apart from what I've used in the update switching to past tense. Using archive.org is only a weak source for the final (most recent?) ARA News publication; maybe you can find an article explaining ''why'' ARA News stopped publishing (internal personal conflicts, funding stopped, infiltration by security services from country X opposed to Kurdish self-determination, sabotage by the Venusians who filmed the Apollo 11 landing in a Martian film studio, ... - speculation ranging from ordinary to outlandish). [[User:Boud|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud|talk]]) 22:42, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

: Yes, no news is not good news - for a news service. It looks very dead-parrot, but I can't find out what happened. Searching for news about a news site is tricky though, difficult to filter out the chaff. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 16:34, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

== Kendriya Vidyalaya Maharajganj ==

Please don't delete or edit on my Wikipedia page Kendriya Vidyalaya Maharajganj 
  Thanks  [[User:Syed Abid haider|Syed Abid haider]] ([[User talk:Syed Abid haider|talk]]) 02:28, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

{{Ping|Syed Abid haider}} you '''need''' to read the policy [[Wikipedia:Ownership of content]]. It says:
 No one "owns" content (including articles or any page at Wikipedia).

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== You might be interested ==

[[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#WP:NOTHERE_editor_and_his_socks|In this ANI section]] - [[User:LouisAragon|LouisAragon]] ([[User talk:LouisAragon|talk]]) 21:16, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

== Greater London ==

The name of the region is ''London'', not ''Greater London'', which is the name of the county. So what would be the best way to state this in the lead? '''[[User:ImprovedWikiImprovment|<span style="color: darkgreen">IWI</span>]]'''  (''[[User talk:ImprovedWikiImprovment|<span style="color: purple">chat</span>]]'') 09:49, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

: [[MOS:LEADSENTENCE]] advises us that the lead should tell the reader what the subject of the article is. The subject of the [[Greater London]] article, its title, is is ''"Greater London"'', not ''"London"''. There is another article for [[London]]. What is wrong with "Greater London is a region of England which forms the administrative boundaries of London, as well as a county..."? [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 12:20, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
::The region is called '''London''' or '''London region''', the county is called '''Greater London''' (not including the [[City of London]]). [[MOS:LEADSENTENCE]] states "where possible" and [[WP:IGNOREALLRULES]] states that if a rule inhibits your ability to improve Wikipedia, ignore it. It is incorrect to state "Greater London is a region..." because it's not, so we should ignore the first part of MOS:LEADSENTENCE in this case. '''[[User:ImprovedWikiImprovment|<span style="color: darkgreen">IWI</span>]]'''  (''[[User talk:ImprovedWikiImprovment|<span style="color: purple">chat</span>]]'') 18:34, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
::Also consider " Use the first sentence of the article to provide relevant information that is '''not''' already given by the title of the article" from [[MOS:LEADSENTENCE]]. '''[[User:ImprovedWikiImprovment|<span style="color: darkgreen">IWI</span>]]'''  (''[[User talk:ImprovedWikiImprovment|<span style="color: purple">chat</span>]]'') 18:37, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
:::I suggest that you put your arguments in a new discussion on at [[Talk:Greater London]] - if people agree  with you, we can change the lead. Good luck! [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 19:26, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
::::Yeah, thanks. '''[[User:ImprovedWikiImprovment|<span style="color: darkgreen">IWI</span>]]'''  (''[[User talk:ImprovedWikiImprovment|<span style="color: purple">chat</span>]]'') 19:28, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

{{hat|moved to [[Talk:Greater London]]}}
There is nothing to discuss; the region is called "London", which can be called the "London region" for clarification purposes (from London). No one seems to want to talk about it on the talk page. Please refer to [[MOS:LEADSENTENCE]], specifically when it states "Use the first sentence of the article to provide relevant information that is not already given by the title of the article." Refer also to any London borough and look in the "region" section of the infobox, which will state "London" not "Greater London". The only reason the region and county are in the same article is because the only difference is one square mile. But make no mistake, the region is '''London'''; the county is '''Greater London'''. Please properly consider this before replying as you are the only person who is interested. '''[[User:ImprovedWikiImprovment|<span style="color: darkgreen">IWI</span>]]'''  (''[[User talk:ImprovedWikiImprovment|<span style="color: purple">chat</span>]]'') 18:52, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
{{hab}}

: If there is too little interest in your suggestion as put at [[Talk:Greater London#Lead Change]], consider advertising it (suggested tangentially at [[WP:MULTI]]), or perhaps even start an [[WP:RFC]]. You will need to be fairly specific in your proposal, ie "Change the lead to ...." It seems to me that there might be other issues involved, which I shall mention at [[Talk:Greater London]]. Let's keep the discussion in that one place. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 21:50, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

== Spanish language  ==

Spanish is one of the main and most important languages of Europe. Why is not included as one of the main?

In the Wikipedia of other continents like South America are named more than 5 languages, including even the French that barely has speakers. [[User:JamesOredan|JamesOredan]] ([[User talk:JamesOredan|talk]]) 22:51, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
:Already explained at [[User talk:JamesOredan#July 2018]]. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 23:55, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

== Trivial awards ==

Thank you for your support re the deleted awards and decorations from Ernst Röhm's page which two editors have deemed as "trivial". There wasn't even an Awards and Decorations section until I created it, yet instead of a simple thanks, I've been stalked on a number of pages by one editor in particular and another on one page deleting whole streams of added content by me. I've asked politely for guidelines on what wiki pages I'm allowed to add links to, yet no reply, just more deletions and yesterday a very aggressive message from one of them about posting "trivial" awards. I've asked for a list of so-called trivial awards from these two editors, yet they refuse to let me know which ones I'm allowed to add for content. How am I supposed to know what is trivial and unacceptable and what is not trivial and acceptable? What is the point of having a wiki page on a particular topic if I'm not allowed to add a link to it? What function does the page then serve if nobody is allowed to add a link to it? I've found it very frustrating and frankly bordering on bullying behaviour and I don't know what to do. Another editor agreed with me but my content keeps getting deleted and I keep getting warnings. See my talk page! Furthermore, there are plenty of other pages that have these very same awards and decorations in their content, why is it okay for some pages to have these links and not others? I realise I'm not a senior editor, I don't see why that makes what I'm doing as wrong, and in the words of one editor, vandalising a wiki page. [[User:Troy von Tempest|Troy von Tempest]] ([[User talk:Troy von Tempest|talk]]) 10:14, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

== Kazakhstan scripts ==
Hi, because you are withdrawing the modifications from regions of Kazakhstan, returning to the modifications. Are they Russian or what? [[User:Memoanimax1998|Memoanimax1998]] ([[User talk:Memoanimax1998|talk]]) 07:21, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
: I guess you're referring to your removal of Cyrillic from articles such as [[Atyrau Region]]. Can I suggest you start a new discussion section at [[Talk:Atyrau Region]] where we can put our opinions on the use of Cyrillic, implied Russian influence etc? Discussion is always more productive than edit warring. [[Wikipedia:Edit warring]] has some advice. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 08:08, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

== Need Help for creating babel in [[Meetei Mayek]] . ==

Can you please help in making babel
Information are here 
* [[mni 0 ]] ꯃꯁꯤ ꯁꯤꯖꯤꯟꯅꯔꯤꯕ ꯃꯤꯑꯣꯏ ꯑꯁꯤ [[Meitei|ꯃꯤꯇꯩꯂꯣꯟ]] ꯀꯔꯤꯁꯨ ꯈꯪꯕ ꯉꯝꯗꯦ ꯫
* [[mni 1 ]] ꯃꯁꯤ ꯁꯤꯖꯤꯟꯅꯔꯤꯕ ꯃꯤꯑꯣꯏ ꯑꯁꯤꯅ [[Meitei|ꯃꯤꯇꯩꯂꯣꯟ ]] ꯁꯤ ꯑꯔꯥꯏꯕ ꯋꯥꯍꯪ ꯅꯠꯇꯔꯒ ꯑꯆꯝꯕ ꯑꯌꯤꯕ ꯄꯣꯠꯁꯛꯇꯤ ꯈꯪꯕ ꯉꯝꯃꯤ ꯫ 
* [[mni 2 ]] ꯃꯁꯤ ꯁꯤꯖꯤꯟꯅꯔꯤꯕ ꯃꯤꯑꯣꯏ ꯑꯁꯤꯅ [[Meitei|ꯃꯤꯇꯩꯂꯣꯟ]] ꯁꯤ ꯑꯆꯝꯕ ꯈꯟꯅ ꯅꯩꯅꯕꯒꯤ ꯃꯇꯥꯡꯗ ꯁꯦꯝꯒꯠꯄ ꯉꯝꯃꯤ ꯫
* [[mni 3 ]] ꯃꯁꯤ ꯁꯤꯖꯤꯟꯅꯔꯤꯕ ꯃꯤꯑꯣꯏ ꯑꯁꯤꯅ [[Meitei|ꯃꯤꯇꯩꯂꯣꯟ]] ꯑꯁꯤ ꯌꯥꯝ ꯁꯣꯏꯍꯟꯗꯅ ꯏꯕꯗꯤ ꯉꯝꯃꯤ ꯫
* [[mni 4 ]] ꯃꯁꯤ ꯁꯤꯖꯤꯟꯅꯔꯤꯕ ꯃꯤꯑꯣꯏ ꯑꯁꯤꯅ [[Meitei|ꯃꯤꯇꯩꯂꯣꯟ ]] ꯁꯤ ꯏꯃꯥꯂꯣꯟꯒꯤ ꯃꯑꯣꯡꯒꯨꯝ ꯋꯥ-ꯉꯥꯡꯕ ꯉꯝꯕ (ꯑꯗꯨꯝ ꯑꯣꯏꯅꯃ. ꯑꯩꯒꯤ ꯏꯃꯥꯂꯣꯟꯗꯤ ꯅꯠꯇꯕ) ꯫
* [[‍mni 5 ]] ꯃꯁꯤ ꯁꯤꯖꯤꯟꯅꯔꯤꯕ ꯃꯤꯑꯣꯏ ꯑꯁꯤꯅ [[Meitei|ꯃꯤꯇꯩꯂꯣꯟ]] ꯁꯤ ꯁꯤꯟꯐꯝ  ꯑꯃꯥ ꯑꯣꯏꯅ ꯍꯩꯔꯕ ꯑꯃꯗꯤ ꯈꯨꯃꯥꯡ ꯆꯥꯎꯁꯤꯟꯅ ꯌꯥꯝ ꯍꯩꯅ ꯑꯇꯣꯞꯄ ꯂꯣꯟꯗ ꯍꯟꯗꯣꯛꯄ ꯉꯝꯕ ꯫
* [[mni N ]] ꯃꯁꯤ ꯁꯤꯖꯤꯟꯅꯔꯤꯕ ꯃꯤꯑꯣꯏ ꯑꯁꯤꯅ [[Meitei|ꯃꯤꯇꯩꯂꯣꯟ ]] ꯁꯤ ꯏꯃꯥꯂꯣꯟ ꯑꯣꯏꯖꯕ ꯑꯃꯁꯨꯡ ꯄꯟꯊꯩ-ꯄꯥꯎꯔꯧ ꯂꯣꯏꯅ ꯈꯪꯕ ꯍꯩꯕ ꯫


*  For Meetei Mayek font 
[[Incubator:Wp/mni/ꯃꯔꯨꯑꯣꯏꯕ ꯂꯥꯃꯥꯏ]]

* See also 
[[Meetei language]]


We used " ꯫ " as full stop in writing an article in 
[[Meetei Mayek]]
 [[User:Awangba Mangang|Awangba Mangang]] ([[User talk:Awangba Mangang|talk]]) 18:28, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

:I'm afraid I wouldn't know where to begin. And these characters don't display for me. Good luck! [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut#top|talk]]) 06:53, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

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