Talk:List of MPs in the first United Kingdom Parliament

Requested move 2 December 2022

Latest comment: 2 years ago8 comments6 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 17:06, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

– These pages relate to MPs in the parliament as a whole, rather than just the election, including in some cases information on those elected in by-elections and changes in affiliation. Where they don't so include, it would clearly be useful and relevant information to add. The proposed titles are named by analogy to those in Template:United States Congresses, though there could be further discussion on the most appropriate title. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 21:06, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Oppose. There is no such thing as a numbered "House of Commons", just a numbered Parliament, e.g. no "11th House of Commons", but just the "House of Commons of the 11th Parliament". Moreover, these pages are only MPs returned by a particular general election, it does not list by-elections or changes during the course of the parliamentary session, so this is actually not a list of MPs of that parliament. It is preferable to keep election returns to election years, to make it easier to search, and have a separate page for the relevant parliament - as is done in the US case, e.g. "1898 United States House of Representatives elections" vs. "55th United States Congress" Walrasiad (talk) 23:19, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Oppose - Not a common name, and not an improvement. Ralbegen (talk) 00:13, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Oppose Absolutely not. It's very American to refer to terms in that way. It's simply not done in British political culture. We deal in years, just look at how "1979" or "1997" are used as shorthand for the elections of those years. doktorb _words^deeds 06:23, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Oppose per all above. These terms are simply not in use - e.g. googling "53rd United Kingdom House of Commons" as an exact phrase finds only this move request. Thryduulf (talk) 12:15, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Oppose per Walrasiad, and the fact that the titles are completely useless to anyone trying to work out what time period the list in question covers. Number 5 7 13:23, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Withdraw While this styling is used outside the US example I gave, it is clear from this discussion it is not at all prevalent or common usage in British politics, such that the term would not have a generally understood meaning if the changes were made, and so could lead to confusion (aside from Walrasiad's strong argument about it not being precise either. I certainly have seen the numbers used in certain reference books, and I will note that the very most recent of these pages do include information beyond the election itself, but for all the reasons above, I'm happy to withdraw my proposal. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 17:03, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

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