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Insufficient WP:RS here to merit a stand-alone article Amigao (talk) 03:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ethnic groups and Taiwan. Skynxnex (talk) 03:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Weak delete Putting aside cross-Strait relations and Taiwanese independence, the sources that I could find don't seem to suggest that anti-Taiwanese discrimination is a sufficiently distinct phenomenon from anti-Chinese or anti-Asian racism to merit a separate article. On the other hand, nationalist/anti-Taiwanese independence sentiment in mainland China is certainly a notable thing, and I did find some sources discussing the ways in which anti-Taiwanese independence rhetoric can feature outright negativity towards Taiwanese people and culture (e.g. see [1] and [2]). But I'm not convinced that there's enough coverage of that specific sentiment to merit a separate article, and I think it's probably better discussed in the context of wider Chinese nationalism and Chinese unification.MCE89 (talk) 01:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I did a more thorough search of Chinese language sources and I think there’s probably enough to keep this article. The problem is that the article takes pains to distinguish anti-Taiwanese sentiment from anti-Taiwanese independence sentiment (which seems to be a distinction that is made in the literature as well), so the broader fact that China wants to invade Taiwan — while obviously notable — is probably outside the scope of this article. But there are a number of Chinese-language sources about anti-Taiwanese sentiment (反台), mostly in the context of China denying that it exists or asking its citizens to stick to anti-Taiwanese independence rhetoric without being anti-Taiwan ([3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]). So I think those debates about the extent to which online Chinese nationalist discourse features anti-Taiwan rhetoric make this notable. I've also gone and expanded the article with some of those sources. MCE89 (talk) 21:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. With your additions, I think this can now be kept per WP:HEY. - Amigao (talk) 17:41, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I did a more thorough search of Chinese language sources and I think there’s probably enough to keep this article. The problem is that the article takes pains to distinguish anti-Taiwanese sentiment from anti-Taiwanese independence sentiment (which seems to be a distinction that is made in the literature as well), so the broader fact that China wants to invade Taiwan — while obviously notable — is probably outside the scope of this article. But there are a number of Chinese-language sources about anti-Taiwanese sentiment (反台), mostly in the context of China denying that it exists or asking its citizens to stick to anti-Taiwanese independence rhetoric without being anti-Taiwan ([3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]). So I think those debates about the extent to which online Chinese nationalist discourse features anti-Taiwan rhetoric make this notable. I've also gone and expanded the article with some of those sources. MCE89 (talk) 21:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. The people of Taiwan have their own unique politics and culture. Hence, this page is just as legitimate as such pages for many other countries (this is not necessarily about the "race"). In particular, the well-known plans by the People's Republic of China to occupy Taiwan is a part of this "sentiment". My very best wishes (talk) 19:10, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- No fundamental disagreement with your points, but the page itself lacks WP:PRECISION. Your points relate more specifically to opposition to the Taiwanese independence movement as well as Chinese unification rather than a more vague anti-Taiwanese "sentiment". - Amigao (talk) 21:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. When Taiwanese go abroad (outside of China), they fear the pro-PRC Chinese community within the Asian community, which is often discriminated against and abused. Anti-Taiwanese discrimination/racism exists separately from anti-Asian or Chinese racism. Similar article: Anti-Tibetan sentiment ProKMT (talk) 07:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- ProKMT, it would be good to see some statements with WP:RSes in the article on precisely that point. - Amigao (talk) 17:40, 9 January 2025 (UTC)