Talk:Harbin Institute of Technology

Latest comment: 2 years ago by GenQuest in topic Merger proposal

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POV, needs wikification, maybe copyvio. Reads like a prospectus. Keith Edkins

Some tweaks and deleted some puffery. Maurreen 06:58, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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The lead

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I did some improvements on the lead where statements are reorganized for clear expression and the claim of "secret projects undertaken by the university affecting its international rank" was removed due to the lack of direct & verifiable sources and the insufficient importance to be highlighted like that. Some grammatical problems are fixed as well (i.e consistently rank --> has been consistently ranked).Biomedicinal (contact)

Hitmanager and 马兴毅 (probably the same user), I've sought to collaborate with you by asking for your reasons of reversion but you just turned a blind eye to me. Your edit of the lead is problematic and I've pointed it out several times via different talk pages, including yours.
Again, please do realize you're adding something that doesn't seem to be constructive:
  • You've kept adding irrelevant and redundant stuff to the lead.
The counterparts of "Ivy League" (like what you added the Russell Group in UK and Go8 in Australia) aren't really relevant to HIT and probably shouldn't be added to the intro here.
By the way, as I've repeated many times, Ivy League is actually athletic in nature, unlike the C9 League.
  • You've kept adding clumsy sentences with obvious grammatical problems.
Ranked among the top 5 instead of topping the league table you cited, the institute should be " among the best science and engineering universities ".
The "consistency" of its ranking positions probably requires the use of perfect tense instead of past tense.
The word "HIT" is used repeatedly within few statements which are clumsy to read.
  • You've kept emphasizing the institute's "top status" without proper citations (it seems you're a student, graduate or even teacher there).
Wikipedia's pages aren't a promotional leaflet.
Prestige descriptions require relevant, robust, multiple and verifiable sources to support since otherwise people can simply add such claim to their own Alma mater or school they're studying at (even MIT or more locally Tsinghua don't have such stress of "being the best engineering research university" at the first sight of their page).
To be more accurate, the whole "recognition" statement should be changed to "it is widely ranked among the best engineering and technological universities in mainland China" since you provided sources of rankings (not review or other types of articles) only and those rankings merely take mainland's institutions into account, excluding other Greater China's.
  • You've kept adding an irrelevant reference.
I really don't know why this page is directly a supporting source for your claim of rankings.
Biomedicinal (contact) 07:23, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
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The China Defence Universities Tracker

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Australian Strategic Policy Institute lists the university (risk: very high, security credentials: top secret), see [1]. Rießler (talk) 10:50, 5 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Merger proposal

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


I propose merging History of Harbin Institute of Technology into this article. The "history" section in this article could be completely replaced by the content of latter one, since it has a lenghth of only 14k. --Aongchianhue (talk) 04:47, 13 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Comment: I am not against collecting all encyclopedic material on the history of the university in the Harbin Institute of Technology article.
However, I am not sure the content in History of Harbin Institute of Technology is preferable to what is already there. Both are entirely unsourced, and History of Harbin Institute of Technology is more extensive, but it is still quite puffy and written from a less neutral point of view. Felix QW (talk) 12:09, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Comment At least in theory there would be plenty to say about the history of a university to warrant a separate article (with the main article having a much briefer summary and link to the history article). With the current situation of unsourced material which may have a few other problems too, I'm less sure. I suppose I'd say don't merge it. Kingdon (talk) 04:23, 15 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Support merge, although I note that since being stripped of COPYVIVO the page is only ~1.5k Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

    Y Merger complete. GenQuest "scribble" 18:24, 2 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

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