Talk:Kyiv: Difference between revisions

I want to inform other participants that Ymblanter person is from [[Russia]] and tries to confuse English-speaking contributors with politics and insinuations about Ukraine, because his own Russian Federation country does act of direct aggression against [[Ukraine]]. The crucial point for understanding why such people so resist to Kyiv renaming is that their leader [[Vladimir Putin]] insists that ukrainians do not exist and Kyiv is a russian city. --[[User:Victor sunsay|Victor sunsay]]

:Ymblanter isn't from Russia. Neither am I. I've lived in Ukraine, western Ukraine, and I'm married to a Ukrainian, so I know the linguistic situation in that country very well. But the English Wikipedia is governed not by passions from nationalists of any stripe--Ukrainian or Russian. And as the English Wikipedia, we are governed by [[WP:COMMONNAME|common English usage]]. For the vast majority of locations in Ukraine there is no common usage because the places are rarely, if ever, mentioned in English language sources. Thus "Kharkov" > "Kharkiv", "Dniepropetrovsk" > "Dnipro", etc. That is not true for "Kiev", "Chernobyl", and "Odessa" which are firmly entrenched and regularly mentioned in English. This is regularly checked in reliable English sources and the usage of "Kiev", "Chernobyl", and "Odessa" has not changed in the last ten years. There are English common forms for these three names and they simply cannot be changed based on the whims of the government in Kyiv and an act of the Rada. I suggest you expend your passions elsewhere for the good of your country and not in terrorizing Wikipedia with your personal attacks on other editors. --[[User:TaivoLinguist|Taivo]] ([[User talk:TaivoLinguist|talk]]) 14:41, 26 April 2019 (UTC)