Commons:Deletion requests/Template:TOO

I think this template is unnecessary. Ox1997cow (talk) 07:26, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Weak keep I think it could be useful, but the standard delete nom. has taken over. A09090091 (talk) 12:25, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So  I withdraw my nomination.Ox1997cow (talk) 17:40, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by the nominator himself (non-admin closure)Ox1997cow (talk) 17:40, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If a logo is believed to be above TOO in its source country, then it should be nominated for deletion. This nonstandard problem tag serves no purpose at all. pandakekok9 14:00, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete As a guide, I started looking at the other TOO templates. From {{TOO-Malaysia}}:

The implications of these situations on Commons' ability to continue to distribute this and other depictions like it are currently under analysis.

Really? What analysis? Where? COM:CRT/Malaysia#Threshold of originality is of little help. And as the nominator suggested, why not just nominate these files for deletion?

Then there is this gem from {{Not-free-US-TOO}}:

This policy may change in the future, depending on the outcome of community discussions and new case law.

Note the broken link.

Maybe not just this template, but that entire category needs to go. Brianjd (talk) 14:47, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Pandakekok9 and Brianjd:  Comment TOO templates and NoTOO templates were made by me and Chubit. So I ping @Chubit: . Ox1997cow (talk) 14:56, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

•  Delete all - agree with the nominator that if a file is believed to be copyrighted, it should be nominated for deletion. I can't think of a valid reason to tag (potentially) copyrighted works without nominating them for deletion. -M.nelson (talk) 13:19, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• if a file is believed to be copyrighted AND it is not available under free license then it should be nominated for deletion. If it is available under free license then stamping this template does not help. In which case it would be useful? Though template for works on edge of TOO, warning that court decision may be different from analysis of Wikimedia Commons users may be useful. But "The work in this image is believed to be copyrighted" is a different case. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 19:49, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: "If a logo is believed to be above TOO in its source country, then it should be nominated for deletion" is not true. Image may be also freely licensed by author or as a matter of law and in such cases should not be nominated for deletion Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 19:50, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but then why would it need this template? Carl Lindberg (talk) 01:32, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am supporting deletion of this template, this comment was directed to people/person that created it. Maybe they intended something like this? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 13:00, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete This template does seem rather odd, much too large, and overly alarming text. If something is over the threshold, like most works, it needs to be licensed or deleted. I don't see the need for this template on any work. If something is below the threshold, the corresponding license tag should probably explain the situation and uncertainty across countries. But you wouldn't put a statement "we believe this is protected by copyright" on an "ineligible for copyright" license image. So not sure what this template is used for. It looks like it was supposed to be a parallel to (and mostly a copy of) {{FoP}}, but it's not really a valid parallel, FoP is for a situation where there is a copyrighted subject, but a licensed photo and where the usage of that copyrighted work is allowed. But for threshold, that is a delete-or-not question -- and if licensed, it's presumably above the threshold (or at least we don't care). Carl Lindberg (talk) 01:32, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See also: Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Not-free-US-TOO. Brianjd (talk) 12:24, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Template:TOO and Template:Not-free-US-TOO and  Keep other TOO templates and NoTOO templates. These templates are useful for showing the status of threshold of originality in countries. Ox1997cow (talk) 11:41, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And I ping @Chubit: . Ox1997cow (talk) 15:26, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Going with the deletes here. Thanks everyone for participating and if you disagree with this decision please take it to Commons:Undeletion requests - unless there is a tech issue. Thanks for assuming good faith and happy holidays!. --Missvain (talk) 17:08, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]