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Image:SPÖ election poster Sept 2006 003.jpg

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the image of the politician and images on election posters in general do not correspond with panorama freedom. --88.72.228.75 08:19, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"(1) Es ist zulässig
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5. Werke der Baukunst nach einem ausgeführten Bau oder andere Werke der bildenden Künste nach Werkstücken, die dazu angefertigt wurden, sich bleibend an einem öffentlichen Ort zu befinden, zu vervielfältigen, zu verbreiten, durch optische Einrichtungen öffentlich vorzuführen und durch Rundfunk zu senden und der Öffentlichkeit zur Verfügung zu stellen; ausgenommen sind das Nachbauen von Werken der Baukunst, die Vervielfältigung eines Werkes der Malkunst oder der graphischen Künste zur bleibenden Anbringung an einem Orte der genannten Art sowie die Vervielfältigung von Werken der Plastik durch die Plastik." (my emphasis)
So  Delete -- ３２４７ (talk) 14:27, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment"Wikimedia is a non-profit corporation organized under the laws of Florida, USA."[1]. Although national law may impose a restriction on how an image may be used within its jurisdiction, for the purposes of the Wikimedia Commons I am under the impression that all that is required is that the image does not violate U.S. law and that it is properly licensed. --Oden 22:52, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think the issue is pretty clear in that case.... I suppose German Wikipedia may not show this image, however Commons and the English Wikipedia may. And if it can be shown on the English Wikipedia, then Commons may be used as depository, is my understanding. Gryffindor 08:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete Gryffindor, you obviously are not familiar with Commons policy or with copyright law. This image is a reproduction of a copyrighted poster and has to be deleted. Fact. --Fb78 17:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah ha I see... well then could you explain these cases here: Category:2006 advertisements, Category:Advertisements, Category:Advertising, Category:Movie posters, Image:LabourCampaignPoster20050115 CopyrightKaihsuTai.jpg, Category:Political advertising, Category:Posters, Category:Advertisements by year, etc. etc. Looks like they are all images of copyrighted work, I'm a little bit confused now... thank you. Gryffindor 10:03, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

 CommentOk, I have researched the matter a little further, and come up with the following:

  • Although Wikipedia Commons is located within the legal jurisdiction of the state of Florida, the Commons also has policies regarding the type of images are allowed. For instance fair use images, while permissible under U.S law, might not be so in other jurisdictions. As a result the Commons does not allow such images.
  • The issue regarding this image refers to the Freedom of panorama. An image which contains the works of others which is temporarily placed in a public place is considered a derivative work, if the main purpose of the image in question is to depict the primary work. (E.g. if illustrating the political poster is the main purpose of the image then it is a derivative work. A image which does not depict a copyrighted image as its main object is a different matter completely, for instance Image:LabourCampaignPoster20050115 CopyrightKaihsuTai.jpg. There are other exceptions, see Commons:Licensing.)
  • Uploading this image in the language versions where the limitation of "Panorama freedom" is not a issue might be acceptable. English Wikipedia has a blanket fair use template for this purpose: {{Politicalposter}}.

Disclaimer: the aforementioned is not a legal advise, but just a presentation for educational purposes. See also the Commons General Disclaimer. --Oden 20:21, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have posted a request for comment on the village pump, please comment there first Commons:Village_pump#Copyright_status_of_posters. cheers Gryffindor 20:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete I don't see a "borderline case" as Fred Chess indicated in Commons:Village_pump_archive/2006Nov#Copyright_status_of_posters, especially as the resolution of the picture is rather high. The image should be deleted. --Svencb 15:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly the same case with Image:GRÜNE election poster 2006 003.jpg - please treat the same way as the image discussed above. --Svencb 15:46, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately I am still not getting a clear answer as to why these images should be deleted, and the images in Category:2006 advertisements, Category:Advertisements, Category:Advertising, Category:Movie posters, Image:LabourCampaignPoster20050115 CopyrightKaihsuTai.jpg, Category:Political advertising, Category:Posters, Category:Advertisements by year exist. For this case specifically, if we decreased the resolution of the images to let's say thumb-size, would that be in order then Svencb? Gryffindor 18:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted. The keywords are "...sich bleibend an einem öffentlichen Ort zu befinden...". Thuresson 17:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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